scratchy- If you're looking for a lot of bang for your buck- try B and D tools-this relatively new company is just getting started and has been marketing on ebay as " bdpdrt" they make some quality stainless rods and use hardened steel on smaller diameter tools and thin wire tools. I think they were selling 30 pc. sets for around $150.to $200. Do an ebay seller search to locate them (via email) because I don't think they currently have any items listed. You'll need to get whale tails from one of the companies Coitster listed. Learning pdr is like learning to play a musical instrument- lots of practice and patience. Bob
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