Is this the standard of WSR?

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Is this the standard of WSR?

Post by lorinser »

Greeting Guys


I just wanna find out more on WSR and hope to get some opinion here.
Kindly advise whether the below job done is normal or a very badly job done.
as i be going into this WSR soon as a part time job,i hope u guys here can give me some advice.

i got my windshield repaired few weeks back.
upon inspection by the tech,he just drill it......setup his tools n pump in the resins and cure it with the uv lamp.

all this was done under the hot sun where my car was parked and all in all less than 20mins job.

below are the result of what i m getting.

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i need some advice with all the experts here.

Q1 - Is it truth that all crack will have a clearly line even after being repaired?
Q2 - Can i repair the same crack again for this case?
Q3 - Is this the normal standard of WSR or was it a very badly job done?

Please do give me some opinion n your views guys.

thanks
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Re: Is this the standard of WSR?

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Without having any thing for a size reference...I would say those legs should have been anchored to keep them from spreading. The quality of that repair could definitely be improved. Keep looking around the site and you will find some videos that Delta Kits have put together to showcase what the end result should look like!
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Re: Is this the standard of WSR?

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This is my own opinion. Others can and will give you thiers. I will however agree with Ricersux, From the Image the legs seems they could have been bridged. Meaning Drilled in the center of each leg. But then again that would just cause more scars on the glass than I personally like to have.

Was the point of impact there to begin with? You mentioned he drilled? Did he create the "POI" or if it was there he used the drill to open the "POI" or "Void".

Typically a successful crack repair, Star Break ( anything with extruding legs) is still visible from certain angles. In the pictures I would say the technician didnt use enough resin. You can see in figure (2) where the resin stopped in the legs. You could treat those legs as a crack repair and follow the resin along the crack as the resin fills the legs! The same as you do when servicing a crack repair.

No that is poor quality and definatley needs some attention. Yes you can re-repair that. Call into Delta Kits and speak with those guys. They can step you through the process!

Remember, WSR is not rocket science, however it is an art! Alot actually does go into doing a repair! If you want quality you will learn and tweek your skills to master that art! Its not hard but it takes practice! Take your time, read as much as you can, watch as many videos and ultimately get proper training!

As far as the technician completeting this repair in 20min....Maybe he was late picking up his girlfriend? :lol: Never put a time limit on your repairs....You may get the same results!
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Re: Is this the standard of WSR?

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Ricersux wrote:Without having any thing for a size reference...I would say those legs should have been anchored to keep them from spreading. The quality of that repair could definitely be improved. Keep looking around the site and you will find some videos that Delta Kits have put together to showcase what the end result should look like!
Hi Sir

yes,i have been viewing the informational video that delta kits have.
kinda impressive and amazing i will say.

just curious as the end result i got in my windshield is totally difference from the video i saw.
so is it that i was fool by the video angle or this is the normal case for such repair?
cause if this is the case,which is all repair on crack will have such a visible line after that,
how m i gonna convince others to repair it instead of replace?
lorinser

Re: Is this the standard of WSR?

Post by lorinser »

Time2Shine wrote:This is my own opinion. Others can and will give you thiers. I will however agree with Ricersux, From the Image the legs seems they could have been bridged. Meaning Drilled in the center of each leg. But then again that would just cause more scars on the glass than I personally like to have.
which mean the legs still can be repair right?
m i right to say that?

other than drilling of each legs,is there any other way to do it?
is it possible to just drilled one hole and cure all the legs then?
Time2Shine wrote: Was the point of impact there to begin with? You mentioned he drilled? Did he create the "POI" or if it was there he used the drill to open the "POI" or "Void".
sorry,what's the meaning of "POI" and "Void"?
all i know was when he arrived,he went over to inspect the damage area and next he just take out a hand drill and began to drilled a hole.
he didnt even tell me why or explain to me too :?
Time2Shine wrote: Typically a successful crack repair, Star Break ( anything with extruding legs) is still visible from certain angles. In the pictures I would say the technician didnt use enough resin. You can see in figure (2) where the resin stopped in the legs. You could treat those legs as a crack repair and follow the resin along the crack as the resin fills the legs! The same as you do when servicing a crack repair.

No that is poor quality and definatley needs some attention. Yes you can re-repair that. Call into Delta Kits and speak with those guys. They can step you through the process!
so in another words,no matter how skilled a technician can be or how good the equipment they use.
the crack legs is still visible and wont 100% cleared at all,right?
my next bet will be,so why repair it in the first place when sometime the crack line can be kinda annoying while driving.

also,can you advice me on how do i re-repair those crack again?
any video or information i can view online?

yes,i have been emailed to Delta kits and got this wonderful guy Korey attention to it.
i also do enquire from GT as well and have been getting supportive information from them as well too.
i think i might get one kit from each and try out myself,the only disadvantage for me here is not be able to attend the training course.
lorinser

Re: Is this the standard of WSR?

Post by lorinser »

Time2Shine wrote: Remember, WSR is not rocket science, however it is an art! Alot actually does go into doing a repair! If you want quality you will learn and tweek your skills to master that art! Its not hard but it takes practice! Take your time, read as much as you can, watch as many videos and ultimately get proper training!
to be very frank with u sir,the reason on why i decide to go into WSR for my part time job is mainly because of this crack line.
well,i did called up that technician,i was told by him this "oh,is like that one,no choice"
which he deny a badly job done and refuse to come down for a re-repair which he promise a "life time warranty" in his website.
so what kinda of "life time warranty" are we talking about in WSR? :?:

yes,right on sir.
WSR is indeed an art,after viewing so many videos online,i must say is truly amazing.
i just feel sad that i could not be able to attend the training course myself due to far distance.
the cost over there just dont justify it as i only work it out for part time first.
unless the business is so good,then i will become full time into it and will by then definitely fly over for a training course myself
and of cos meet korey up in person :D

as of now,i could only learn as much as i can over the net and hopefully i be able to cope with it.
i may come out with a very good or very bad result,but i m willingly to learn it.

hope you guys here could give me as much information and support if any then.
thanks,


P/S - oh ya,did i do anything wrong with my account?it seem my post dont always appear after i posted it up? :shock:
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Re: Is this the standard of WSR?

Post by Roo »

It is hard to tell by looking at pictures. If you look at first pic it appears the leg to the left is filled. Then in the second pic the same leg looks like it is not filled. The two legs on the right side don't look filled from either angle. Once again it is hard to tell from a picture. The true test will be to see if it ever spreads. If it does then it was an unsuccessful repair plain and simple.

I had a customer that had a similar looking repair on her windshield, she said it was repaired two years ago. I would have to say it wasn't the prettiest but it was doing the job.
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I would like a couple of questions answered, the first being was the windshield washed just before the repair was started. Was the damage smaller before the repair was started.
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lorinser wrote: P/S - oh ya,did i do anything wrong with my account?it seem my post dont always appear after i posted it up? :shock:
You did not do anything wrong but in an effort to stop spam and illegitimate posts a moderator must approve your first three posts. Once a moderator approves your post you will receive a confirmation email. Also, you will not have use of all board features until you have posted a minimum of 10 posts. Features that you will not be able to use until you have a minimum of 10 posts include, but are not limited to, private messaging, e-mailing, posting photos, and viewing photos.
lorinser wrote:and of cos meet korey up in person :D
I look forward to meeting you in person too! :D
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Re: Is this the standard of WSR?

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lorinser wrote:
Time2Shine wrote:This is my own opinion. Others can and will give you thiers. I will however agree with Ricersux, From the Image the legs seems they could have been bridged. Meaning Drilled in the center of each leg. But then again that would just cause more scars on the glass than I personally like to have.
which mean the legs still can be repair right?
m i right to say that?

other than drilling of each legs,is there any other way to do it?
is it possible to just drilled one hole and cure all the legs then?
Time2Shine wrote: Was the point of impact there to begin with? You mentioned he drilled? Did he create the "POI" or if it was there he used the drill to open the "POI" or "Void".
sorry,what's the meaning of "POI" and "Void"?
all i know was when he arrived,he went over to inspect the damage area and next he just take out a hand drill and began to drilled a hole.
he didnt even tell me why or explain to me too :?
Time2Shine wrote: Typically a successful crack repair, Star Break ( anything with extruding legs) is still visible from certain angles. In the pictures I would say the technician didnt use enough resin. You can see in figure (2) where the resin stopped in the legs. You could treat those legs as a crack repair and follow the resin along the crack as the resin fills the legs! The same as you do when servicing a crack repair.

No that is poor quality and definatley needs some attention. Yes you can re-repair that. Call into Delta Kits and speak with those guys. They can step you through the process!
so in another words,no matter how skilled a technician can be or how good the equipment they use.
the crack legs is still visible and wont 100% cleared at all,right?
my next bet will be,so why repair it in the first place when sometime the crack line can be kinda annoying while driving.

also,can you advice me on how do i re-repair those crack again?
any video or information i can view online?

yes,i have been emailed to Delta kits and got this wonderful guy Korey attention to it.
i also do enquire from GT as well and have been getting supportive information from them as well too.
i think i might get one kit from each and try out myself,the only disadvantage for me here is not be able to attend the training course.

Nice to have you here first off lorinser, welcome.
You have some very good questions here and I am of the opinion that if you jopin the WSR industry you will do good work givin the time to get some experience.
Your repair appeares to be less than complete from the pictures but! It may be that the legs did fill, you see when a crack is filled it will still leave a scar that is visable, also if the correct resin is not used the appearance may not change drastically.
The damage is quite large and the long legs should be treated as a crack repair.
The POI or Point of impact is your void, where the surface glass is removed. Also the air space beneath it may be described that way, includeing the legs or cracks that emminate from the POI.
Timetoshine made some good points in his post as to haw this large star break should be repaired. I would have put cleats on the longer legs and then filled them from the origional poi useing capillary methods if possable, there are other methods that may have been utillized also, as needed. (cleat or anchor=mini bull at the end of each leg) Do a search for more info on this proceedure.
screenman is a very good tech and his point about possable moisture is another question. Was the damage holding moisture possably?
Re repair is possable but I would not have a rookie try it it is for a very skilled tech to perform, once again the proceedure is to install a cleat at the legs ends and then back fill, while you may not get a complete fill due to the legs being partially filled it will serve to stop further spread of damage very well. No guarrantee though.

Once again welcome and I appreciate your input. Oh and I just reinstalled my OS on this computer and I have no spell cheack so....
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