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Old 03-06-2003
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Glassdoc,

As I have posted for you other times. Please take a moment and read through the other posts and become informed before you post some of your comments. I think you might be losing sight of the purpose for a forum by taking this personal now. If you read them, you might realize I do try to present solutions and extract possible solutions by asking questions from all to problems that needs them. That is called being proactive my friend.

You are missing what this friendly debate was all about. It was not about a personal attack on any one resin or opinion. It was about getting as much information as possible written and opinion to make the most informative decision and if the information was not available, to ask the question... why?

If you don't feel that this step in the decision process is necessary, then so be it. Thats your prerogative. Maybe others do now because of these posts.

And yes, I have contacted other suppliers for this info. Some supplied it and some did not at the time I made my decision and if you read you will see it posted.

Glassdoc, for someone who told me more or less they did not want to debate you sure are doing a good job of it. So once again I ask you, please read some posts and make a more informed post when commenting about me, sir.

Pay it foward,

Brian
www.safeglasstechnologies.com

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Old 03-06-2003
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I am not debating. I merely ask you a direct question based on the already beat to death posts regarding tech specs. The question, since you STILL have not answered it, is; What resin are you currently using, and can you post the "tech-specs" for that particular resin, so that the rest of us mis-informed repair techs can see what it is that we have overlooked doing the trial and error method? Thats all. No more info or retoric needed.. Basically (tech-spec) speaking.. Put up, or shut up.. Not to sound defensive, but if your going to preach, then give us a scripture so we can follow along..

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  #23  
Old 03-06-2003
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Glassdoc,

Once again read, read, read, read and read. Your question was answered long before this debate even started and I just spelled that out in the last post. Oh you did'nt read it...maybe you did'nt understand it becuase you have taken this personal and can't focus on anything but fireing back with an unloaded weapon. It's in here. I am really tired of sounding like a broken record. Read and become informed before you post about me or anyone else in the future so you don't continue shooting yourself in the foot.<img src=http://www.ezboard.com/images/emoticons/happy.gif ALT=":D">

I am done with you until something good can be obtained from your posts.<img src=http://www.ezboard.com/images/emoticons/happy.gif ALT=":D">

Pay it foward,

Brian
www.safeglasstechnologies.com

info@safeglasstechnologies.com</p>
  #24  
Old 03-06-2003
Anonymous
 
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Whatever... Should have figured on not being able to get an answer from the man who asks all the questions. By the way, the question I posted is current within the last 48 hours.. When and if I decide to read thru the archive selection, I may run across your answer.. You spent 5 minutes firing back a response that you could have spent 2 answering a question.. Who sounds defensive..

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  #25  
Old 03-06-2003
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I think many valid points have been made on this subject, but frankly don’t know why this has turned into such a debate. Researching the products that you use to repair windshields is a good idea. I believe that in doing your research, spec sheets are a good place to start, but personal preference and your own field-testing is also very important. Delta Kits resins are put through an extensive testing process that we are happy to share with anyone who is interested in purchasing our resin products. I think that any of our reputable competitors would be willing to do the same.

I have personally field-tested dozens of different types of resins and can tell you that beyond a shadow of a doubt, there are some differences. Delta Kits has been field-testing various different types of resins since 1984 and recommend what we believe to be the best there is. Again, our reputable competitors have done the same. I keep saying reputable because there are a few companies selling resin products that are not properly tested and lack consistency.

If you are willing to spend years of documenting your field-testing results, and don’t mind using your customers as guinea pigs, you don’t need the testing that the manufacturers provide. However, as I said before, I believe it is a good place to start.

Now, here is where personal preference comes in. I once had a customer say that the resin they were using was too thick. Looking at the specs I could see that they were using the lowest viscosity resin available, so I gave them a higher viscosity resin without giving them the specs and asked them to field test it. After a few weeks I got a call from that customer saying that they loved the new thinner resin. When I told him that the resin he tested was actually a higher viscosity, we both had a good laugh. Had I told this particular customer that I was sending him a higher viscosity resin before he tried it, you can bet that he would not have liked it.

The point is there are many different qualities that affect how a resin performs. Some people will like Delta Kits resin better than anything else they try. Others will prefer something else. I would not debate the quality of resin on specs alone. Field-testing and personal preference are definitely part of the equation. You have to believe that you are getting the best results possible or you need to find a new resin product.

There is one more part to the equation that must be taken into account, although I feel it is the least important. Price is a factor for most of us and for some is the only consideration. To me, saving a few cents per repair is not worth risking a failed repair. I recommend finding the best possible and then try to find the best possible price for that resin. If you buy resin based solely on the purchase price, you are bound to be disappointed.

Although I try to read all the postings on the forum, I don’t post very often. (After reading this rather lengthy post, I’m sure you are all very happy that I don’t.) I find it hard not to be biased toward the products that I sell and I don’t want the forum to be a place to promote specific products. Having been a windshield repair tech for many years myself, I can’t help but think of the $100 or so that I could have made repairing windshields, had I not spent the time to write this. If you disagree with anything I have said, that’s fine, but if you post a direct response to this message and I don’t reply, please accept my apology. I’m probably off making money in the windshield repair business.

Brent Deines
Delta Kits, Inc.

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  #26  
Old 03-06-2003
Anonymous
 
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Default Resins

Brent and all who post,

I want to say <span style="text-decoration:underline">I am sorry</span> for getting side tracked negatively in anyway. That was never my intention. I just wanted to put an end to it.

I also want to say thanks for being the mediator Brent, your post was exactly what I was trying to bring out.

Thank you,


Pay it foward,

Brian
www.safeglasstechnologies.com

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