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Old 03-16-2003
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Default Re: insurance co. bite

Hello All,

I was practicing on a piece of glass that I bought from the local glass shop here and find myself running into a consistant problem. As I go through approximately 4-5 vaccum cycles I see that I am getting all of the air out of the break; however, once I remove the injector from the chip and begin to cure it, it seems as though you begin to see more and more of the original sight of the chip before repairs were even done to it.
Am I doing something wrong? Has anybody ran into this before? All help is appreciated greatly! <img src=http://www.ezboard.com/images/emoticons/eek.gif ALT=":eek">

Chris~
WiseCrack Windshield Repairs

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Old 03-16-2003
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Default What's going wrong???

try curing while you repair.

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Old 03-16-2003
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Default repair prob.

How would you do this? can you cure it from the inside with the UV light?
Thanks

Chris~
WiseCrack Windshield Repairs

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Old 03-16-2003
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Default Curring while repair?

I'm not sure what you mean by the "original sight of the chip". But if there is anything black reappearing... a big spot, a line, or a lot of really tiny specks, then it was not done yet. There are exceptions in the real world, such as dirty, contaminated breaks that don't let the resin soak in like normal.

One thing to try is remove the injector when you think it's done, but don't cure it... just wait and what what happens. If it stays filled (clear) for a while, say 10 minutes or so... then you know it's done. I'm guessing by what you say that after a couple minutes, there will be areas reappearing... still air in the break. Then try "cooking" it again, and see what happens after that. Play with that and you might get a better idea of when it's properly filled and ready to cure.

Disclaimer: Guys, this is just an idea to try, and exercise to maybe find a solution to a problem. I don't what to have to explain/defend myself or my resin or techniques. Thanks.

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Old 03-16-2003
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Default ?

Dustin,
I have made sure to give the chip plenty of time to fill in with resin, but I guess it doesn't hurt to practice new things. Thanks for the advice. I shall let you know how it turns out.

Thanks again.
Chris~


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Old 03-16-2003
Anonymous
 
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Default OK.

You can cure without removing the injector by just putting a uv light next to it, as close as you can. A couple minutes on each side. This may not work very well if you have a "brick" shaped cure lamp. The bulb can't be placed close to the repair.

A Glasweld/Liquiglas/US Windshield Repair style "tube" light works great for this.

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Old 03-16-2003
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Default pressure curing

Are you placing the pit resin into the pit as soon as you remove the injector? You might try placing a drop of resin in the pit after you remove the injector. Curing for 5 minutes or so then using the pit resin. Another option for curing with the injector still in place is doing it outside in the sunlight.

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Old 03-16-2003
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Default curing

When I think it is necessary to cure under pressure, I proceed in this manner:

I take a curing tab, cut a hole in it and put it in place around the injector with a drop or two of practice resin (sample resin that didnt pass muster with me), and cure it either with the curing lamp or with sunlight. When this is cured, then I remove the injector and fill the pit &amp; scrape the whole thing off once the pit fill is cured. I achieve consistantly good results with this method. Try this on a practice windshield and see if it works for you.

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Old 03-17-2003
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Default re: curing under pressure

Chris,

There are a number of things that might cause the problem you describe. A few have been addressed here, but it is much easier for us to diagnose a problem if we are talking to you on the telephone, where questions and answers are immediate.

Whenever you or anyone else has a problem with a repair, I would recommend calling the company that you purchased your system from first. If for some reason your supplier cannot help you resolve the problem, then the forum may be very beneficial. If your supplier does resolve the problem, posting your experience will be very helpful to others.

If the helpful tips that you received on the forum so far don't solve your problem, give me a call. Since you are using our system, I feel that we are likely to be your best source for problem solving information.

For the record, Delta Kits also sells tube style lights in different sizes for use on cracks. They just aren't as popular because of their size.

Brent Deines
Delta Kits, Inc.

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Old 03-17-2003
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Default tech support

Brent,
I appreciate your suggestion to call you. It passed through my mind but during the weekend it was just easier to make a post; however, you will hear from me soon about this problem. Thanks again!

Chris~
WiseCrack Windshield Repairs

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