to those who say they dont drill

[mrchip]

yesterday my first repair was a double hit with the top one with several lines
one line didnt fill and yes there many options but bottom line is it didny fill
so i drilled it and filled it.. jpb complete but what crossed my mind was the fact that some techs dont drill.... do they just walk away and charge the customer anyway?? for a finished repair?? i have seen a lot of half done repairs lately

[Delta Kits]

When technicians talk about "not drilling," very few mean they don't own a drill, and won't drill under any circumstances.

With our system we recommend only drilling as a last resort, and almost all breaks will fill if done correctly without drilling. Obviously I can't see the one you did, but it's possible it would have required a drill.

[clear]

i do many repairs wthout drilling and my work comes out very well customers are always happy you dont always have to drill to do a quality and thourgh repair

[mrchip]

hi clear ..thanks for responding..but my question was ..what do you do when a line doesnt fill.. grantedit is not necessary to drill all the time but there comes a time when in doing a repair that a line doesnt fill.. would you drill and fill??? i have asked that question to techs that i have met on the road
and they said they wouldnt drill and fill if not the repair is not finished

[GlassStarz]

Obviosly you have a drill for a reason and sometimes it comes into play but it is seldom needed. If you let the injector do its job and give enough cycles you will find the Nasty Drill is like an ex wife better with very little contact

[Glasseye]

To drill or not to drill?
I have used the drill to complete a repair, but I use it sparingly. If a leg is not filling on, lets say a star break, I stop the process and " probe" the root area of the leg until I see flexing, sometimes you have to make the damage worse to make it better. The break that gives me most problems is a bullseye with a single leg break. If this will not fill I may use the drill, but I make sure I give the process plenty of time initially.

[northidahotim]

Man, this one has me. I ran into numerous repairs that were combination bulls with star legs coming out of it. The legs were filling except for one or two In some of the cases the legs that weren't filling looked like they were right at impact point. After messing with these breaks and then having to pull the injector off, drill, and put the injector back on, taking 30-45 minutes to do one repair I have decided that when I run into these breaks I just drill right off the bat. Saving time. The fix is a good fix and axthetically it's still a good fix. Better than most fixes I have run into up here in North Idaho.I use GlasWeld injectors. If you can tell me better ways to do it I appreciate input.

[GlassStarz]

Its important to know what each break is A bullseye is a glass funnel the impact point is the narrow with the funnel going outwards. The center is just solid glass drilling into it serves no purpose. A combo is just that two breaks in one often not connected I find if you fill the break with the injector sometimes leaving it under pressure long after the bullseye is filled will work the resin into the othe underlying break if the line connects to a area of the bull. If not fill and cure the bullseye then drill to the second underlying break this will keep them separate so you get max fill to both. Dont forget this really is two breaks explain it to the customer and bill the insurance company accordingly explain that the two are interconnected but need to be treated separately the insurance wienies understand it.

[mafsu]

A combination is not two breaks. It is one that contains damage beyond that of a bullseye. Drilling slightly into the center of a combination breaks will allow for an easier flow of resin in to the legs. If you are doing two repairs to fill a combo you are doing work that is not necessary. Along these lines if you are billing the insurance company for two repairs you are over billing. Even if the insurance company is willing to pay for two breaks because you talk them into it. It's simply unethical.

[sag canada]

does the pit ever come out of the hole when you drill? i've seen many ws reps that were drilled and the pit came out, maybe it's from scraping ice and snow off the w/s but i've had to fix a lot of them. I use the bb on an elastic if i've got to open a hole to fix a line and have had great success so far.