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Old 02-05-2004
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Actualy Delta resin does just fine, I think the reason they don't recommend it is because crack repair can be a really iffy process. For example if the crack is older then a few weeks it probably has dirt in it, and they don't turn out as well. Also right now insurance companies won't pay for a crack longer then 6 inches. I have done tons of Long Crack repairs with my delta and I really like it. However I think that it just takes to long to mess with. In the time that it takes me to fix a crack I could of done 3 chip repairs. And anyone that has ridden with me knows that it doesn't take me long to sell one.
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Old 02-05-2004
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LOL

Biased GT?

We have a number of customers who do long cracks, and do wonderful repairs.

Do we advocate brand new customers to go out and push long crack repair? Absolutely not! The time involved, lack of insurance backing, and higher learning curve make long crack repair a niche that is not appropriate for the majority of new customers.

I think most people realize that pushing long crack repair to new customers is a marketing ploy to sell product, so people like you can say exactly what you said.
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Old 02-05-2004
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Sorry delta
The person did not say they were new to W/S repair.
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Old 02-05-2004
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I use the gravity method never been one to lube up a cup and follow the crack with a bridge I could see at times that would help. To be honest with you I rarely have a problem getting resin into the break I just work them.
I don’t touch an old crack that’s for sure; :shock: never been big on crack jacks I guess I’m too much old school. Once in awhile I will pop a bull’s eye in the end maybe I should do this more? I have found if you have a good vertical end in your crack no need to pop them what’s your thoughts?

Do you do cracks that connect to the edge?

I always leave cure tabs on Cracks for a couple days depending on the customer sometimes they will scrape it or I just stop by in a couple days to finish it off.

I was told years ago that repair resin takes a good 72 hours to fully cure that’s why I leave the cure tabs on to prevent shrinkage is this a myth too. :?


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Old 02-05-2004
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Repair1

I believe the current thinking on vertical crack ends is that they are more likely to run. The ends that run down to a point like a typical star leg are thought to be more stable. If that's what you mean? There is definitely disagreement in this area.

I do cracks that connect to the edge... I hardly ever see one that doesn't.

windshield repair suppliers should know about the "72 hour" cure thing... whoever tests the resins for tensile strength, etc would have to know when to stop curing. I would say that's a myth. UV adhesives are widely used in other industries for manufacturing... these products would not have exposure to the sun, so the curing process would have to be complete in the factory. Maybe the UV lights we use are not as effective as the industrial equipment? I know there are cure lamps a hundred times more powerful than what we use.
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The 72 hour cure thing is definitely not applicable to windshield repair resins...
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Personaly I pass on cracks over 3" not sure fixxin the big ones is doing the customer a favor and definatly dont think it helps our buisness as a whole. From what I can see big cracks tend to fail and a failure gives the customer the impression that all repairs fail. happy customers may tell a couple people, unhappy ones tell evreyone!
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Old 02-07-2004
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GlasWeldTech,

Wow I tried your slide trick O my hell that made it so easy. The funny part is that I was doing my usual crack repair method after fighting it for 10 min or so I thought hey this is a chance to try something new, Wow I’m glad I did the old way is now out the door.

Thanks for teaching this old dog a new trick!

This reminds me off a little story about why we do things the way we do.

The Mom was preparing her usual Sunday roast dinner like always she would cut the ends off the roast put it into the pan and into the oven. The daughter was watching her this day asked mom why do you cut the ends off the roast? Mom replied that’s the way your grandma taught me the roasts are always tender this way. The little girl being curious had to go ask her grandmother, Grandma she asked why do you cut the ends off the roast? She said your great grandmother taught me this and the roasts are always tender this way. The little girl still being curious had to ask her great grandmother Great Grandma she asked why do you cut the ends off the roast? She said I did it because I never had a pan big enough for the roast. :lol:

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Glad I could help Brian.
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Old 02-16-2004
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OK another sleepless night what can I say I had to do something. :roll:

Wow just when you think you know everything LOL :lol:
I really have been doing some homework on these crack repairs I’ll tell ya that slide trick is amazing! After talking to several people yep I’m old school that’s for sure ops: that 72 hours curing tab myth makes me laugh. It’s true you can scrape that film off just as if it was a regular repair dam I feel like a dummy if you only knew how many cracks I have done and left film on them OMG makes me laugh :lol: :lol:

GlasWeldTech,
If you haven’t tried a Delta Bridge on cracks you should. If I’m not mistaken glasweld has that three suction cup bridge right? I used one year’s ago it does do good repairs that’s for sure however you would be amazed how easy cracks are with the Delta Bridge.

This forum is great I really have learned a couple cool tricks that’s for sure
The cool Slide Trick thanks GlasWeldTech, The Magnify Glass and now AKA hammer :lol: thanks Desertstars for that one, and Coitster and his approach in getting business. 8) Anyone else I might have missed which I know there are plenty your all-great thanks :!:

I’m so excited were going to get into the mid 30’s this week right before it snows on Thursday! :evil:


I think I’m getting tired now night all.

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