marsinternational

[ian carline]

can anyone in america tell me the fors and against of marsinternational

[GlassStarz]

Its a lot of money for what you get I have a friend here who bought the system/franchise but after a year he is back to selling cars if you go to the vermont section of thier website you will find him listed in Nothfield still call him and ask before you spend a bunch of $ he is out 50k. Spraying bumper covers outside is bad business you can only work certain weather days you get overspray everywhere the quality is bad and its against the law in most states and violates the Federal EPA rules as well lots of other ways to earn a living in the car business doing Wr and paint repair without spending 50k

[Nanotec-USA]

Hi Ian,

I had the pleasure of talking with a member of their management a few years ago while at a convention. Seemed like a great bunch of people, did not try to hard sell and had no problem answering questions from the attendees of the specific convention. They do offer various packages for a person to expand and help generate additional income. It is a franchise so a guy would need to make sure all questions are answered and more importantly is it really what you want to do.

Another you may want to compare with is Paint Bull, Tim is a straight shooter and will give you the honest answers. Met him at SEMA a few years ago, good guy and good people with him.

A pro for purchasing a franchise in general might be having the backing and support not available when you are a sole proprietor. You would most likely get help from the Franchisor in generating new leads and get you into dealership doors. You go out with training, equipment and are fully trained.

Cons, well, the obvious is you need to pay a fee to use their name and for the support they offer you "Royalties" is what I gathered from their introduction. Many technicians shy away from Franchises to keep all profit/income they generate for their effort, time and sweat. You will have to bust your hump to make the agreed to profit goal you have signed up for "If I did not remember the exact wording I apologize" but then again when the weather is favorable everyone rock and rolls.

If you have the capital to make the investment and their rep. has given you that warm fuzzy feeling then go for it. If you have reservations at all then follow your gut.

You could always ask them for the phone numbers to a few of their current Franchisees to get feedback.

All in all, people that love owning a franchise love it, those that do not love it, well, you know the rest.

Hope I was a little helpful, which ever direction you take I wish you the best of luck.

[wsrusa]

Considering they are being sued by 20 of their franchise owner operators for fraud I would stay clear.

[GlassStarz]

Like I said before I have a friend who worked with me in sales that went 50K IN DEBT to buy the franchise and a yr later is back selling cars it just seems like a lot of $ for what you get and lets face it spraying bumpers outside is bad mojo product looks bad it violates multiple epa laws is bad for the world we live in and there are a bunch better ways to make a living in the car business

[wsrusa]

They are EPA compliant. In most states you can spray up to 8 oz of material per day outside with HVLP equipment. They also offer waterborne spray products which are California approved

[wsrusa]

Oh by the way when you get numbers to call from them you are steered to reps who are paid $10 for talking to you and $50 if you buy a franchise. While $10 doesn't seem like alot but factor in you will get 5-7 call per month and $50 doesn't seem like alot but $50 will by an operator 3-4 paint toners which will net over $1000 in bumper repairs. Quite lucrative to tell the company tale of riches.

[GlassStarz]

EPA compliant? 8oz is half a pint how many bumper covers you gonna paint with 8oz? at $85 average per yup theres a real money maker
considering that you can train and get the needed equipment for about $2500 50k for the franchise is criminal IMHO

[harrellbenjamin]

Originally Posted by GlassStarz

EPA compliant? 8oz is half a pint how many bumper covers you gonna paint with 8oz? at $85 average per yup theres a real money maker
considering that you can train and get the needed equipment for about $2500 50k for the franchise is criminal IMHO

Yep EPA complient.Mini HVLP guns are considered airbrushs. 40 psi max.All are EPA compliant.Spot paint corner .Mix 1/4 oz toner and reduce.Spray clear and blender agent.Take less than 1 hour.$125.00 charge.Less than 10.00 in materials.Sorry your market is whored up.Yes Mars is a rip off.No doubt there.And yes if you do your homework you can have a great touch-up system and be able to spot paint for 2500.00 .No "Stupid Tax" to pay.

[harrellbenjamin]

Originally Posted by GlassStarz

EPA compliant? 8oz is half a pint how many bumper covers you gonna paint with 8oz? at $85 average per yup theres a real money maker
considering that you can train and get the needed equipment for about $2500 50k for the franchise is criminal IMHO

With 1 pint 16oz, I can spray front and rear bumpers and side panel cladding both sides on for example a Jeep Grand cherokee and still have to throw away a couple of ounces of Urethane paint.HVLP SATA MINI JET 1.0 nozzel.HIGH VOLUME/LOW PRESSURE.Very little overspray.EPA complient in everyway.