Moisture in a Break

[StarQuest]

GlassStarz,

Please provide us with all the links you've found that promote drying out repairs from the inside. I've never seen one.

Time to step up to the plate buddy! Prove your point!!!

[screenman]

Starquest I have looked for the links Glassstars mentioned and I cannot find any that promote heating from the inside.

I agree glass does transfer heat very well but the pvb is a barrier that does not do it quite as well, there is moisture at the back and the front of some breaks the point I am making is you would still need more heat than if you warmed up from the front.

Surely if the drystar is such a good system I have never tried one nor even seen one over here why does it apply heat from the outside of the screen.

My posts are never ment to tell you what to do they are telling people what I do and maybe make some think about the reasons they do a certain technique. Sometimes we do things without thinking them through. I had a guy in for training once who drilled and popped bullseyes in bullseye breaks until I asked him why, he said he did not know why he just done it everytime without thinking it out,I corrected him and suddenly he started thinking more about the job and his repair quality whent straight up.

[Layne]

Screenman--your comments are appreciated. Without entering into some dissertation regarding heating techniques, I always keep in mind that manufactures are in the business to sell their products. And I can't fault them for that. Then it is also true that innovation is a direct result of not accepting everything as a fact. Even a lineworker at a toothpaste manufacturing facility told the engineers that they could increase sales by making the opening in the tube one third larger.

Let's all continue to share our experiencies...good or bad. Learning includes a process of reviewing others successes and mistakes.

[screenman]

I will always keep posting on this site as long as people want me to. All I am trying to find out is why we do some of the things we do why do you dry from the inside and me from the outside have you done comparisons. The more info we give the more it helps others.

I have tried to explain the reasons why I dry from the outside ( it save overheating the glass and pvb) can anyone point out the benefits from drying from the inside.

When you warm the inside of the screen there is a moment when that glass expands before the outer layer does due to the pvb insulation this can often be seen in the opening up of starbreak legs for a short while before the heat gets through and makes the outer glass expands and closes the legs, it is in this very short time that the glass can break. You may have to look hard for this point but it is there.

I agree innovation is a very important part of life.

I know this technique works well for you I only ask you to try and understand my theory.

[Layne]

Screenman--I would hate to think of logging into this site and see that you and others had opted to check out. It certainly has enlightened me by reviewing the posts of those participating in here.

Although I have been doing this windshield repair for 7 years (next month is the anniversary of my beginning) I fall woefully short of your level of expertise. As I said in an earlier post, I appreciate your comments. I will be the first to admit that a wealth of expertise is available on this site...by so many of you.

I am preparing to obtain an outside heater...to complement my inside technique. Even though I have never experiencea a crack from this method, I feel that it is because I exercise more than ordinary care. Nevertheless, I intend to utilize both methods as the circumstances may dictate. One important factor to me is that the inside atmosphere of a vehicle has substantially less humidity than the outside. An added benefit is that it is much more comfortable to apply the heat if the outside weather is unbearable. Call me lazy?...just don't like the bitter weather at my advancing years. Cheerio pal---I always enjoy your posts.

[StarQuest]

Layne,

That's great....with 7 years experience you still retain an open mind and are willing to try different methods. I don't always agree with others on this forum but that never means I won't try something new.

The only way to really know if something works or doesn't in repair is to pull out your practice shield and experiment. I don't mean in your garage or heated shop....I mean like outside in your current real weather conditions. That's the only true test I'll put my trust in. It either works for me or it doesn't. That simple!

Wish you well.

[screenman]

I thought I would add a bit of history to this post. Not long after I started in this game Novus introduced a crack cleaning sytem it consisted of water and a soapy solution that you injected into the crack a few times to flush the dirt out you then proceeded with the dry out system I never used it I wonder if anyone else did.

It is bad enough getting water out but to put more in goes against the grain with me.

Mind you I cannot knock Novus completely they did put a hell of a lot of good ideas into the trade.

[chips1144]

Screenman I love your posts, keep posting, Im always willing to learn a better method...