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Posted: March 15th, 2004, 4:34 pm
by DaveC
Another thing to realize .....
The repair does not look "done" until it is cured. When I first started "practicing," I kept re-filling and doing all sorts of crazy things, assuming that the repair would look "great" while I was in injection/vacuum/drill/etc... mode!.
WRONG!!!
Practice a bit. You'll begin to see what a "filled" repair looks like prior to cure. It may look ugly to start, but perfect to end!
Your equipment (if quality) will guide you throught this process.
Posted: March 15th, 2004, 5:35 pm
by maxryde
hog out the hole a bit
Techicnal term Jeff 8)
Posted: March 15th, 2004, 6:15 pm
by glassdoctor
Jeff, I hope you aren't really getting laminate material on your bits.

#-o

Posted: March 15th, 2004, 6:51 pm
by Delta Kits
Jeff, I hope you aren't really getting laminate material on your bits.
LOL!
Okay, you caught me, i'm a laminate driller!
Anyway, answer a windshield repair tech line for a day, laminate drilling is tame compared to some calls we get! :-s
complaining
Posted: March 15th, 2004, 9:33 pm
by MadMike

Boy, you old timers, (no offense...wise men in glass repair, WMIGR's) make a new guys head spin. But thats ok, good stuff to know, I was hoping to give it another try this afternoon after work,...didn't happen
So hopefully tomorrow. Supposed to be a fantastic week for WSR here in the Rockies, should be upper 60's by the weekend. Good for practicing...or making money if I was ready, which I aint.
Thanks for all the great tips...BTW about how deep on average can you drill before you hit laminate?
Posted: March 15th, 2004, 11:08 pm
by Coitster
Hey Mike,
You will know when you hit the laminet, your drill feels like it breaks through something and drops a little bit. Trust me once you break through to the laminet you will know it.

As a general rule of thumb, drilling is only used when their is not enough of an opening for resin to flow into the chip. I actualy drill about 70% of what I fix, but when I do drill I bearly go in at all, I am just creating a very, very, very small indention in the glass so that the resin can flow. Lots of people drill to the laminate, but I don't recommend that. Makes the chip look very ugly.
David
Coitster
Posted: March 16th, 2004, 8:32 am
by johnnyone
Welcome Mad Mike
Enjoy reading your post and your new experences, I can even learn more from your drilling adventures.. One of my adventured was when I first started was I was drilling too long and my bit got red hot
Then I broke off my bit in the drill holes

After that I drilled the lamante

,,, boy was I learning. Hopefully you will do the same and learn from mistakes [-X
What I learned on your post was HOG OUT THE HOLE

I was doing that but never knew what the correct termonagly was
Also when you drill the laminate I didnt know that you could BURN THE DRILL BIT to get the laminate off the bit,,Thanks Jeff for that one. :DAnd thanks to everbody else for the shareing of knowlage \:D/ =D>
Posted: March 16th, 2004, 3:06 pm
by MadMike
Ok, I got it, drill just a little....if necessary. I think another thing I didn't do correctly is cyle between PSI/Vacuum. So I learned that too. I was reading the archives last night on long crack repair. Pretty interesting how you drill a small hole, pop a mini, then run the crack into the mini to stop it, very intrigueing....can't wait to try that one.
I don't think I needed to "Hog out" the hole since i was using the tapered bit. If I was using the rounded bit (did I say that right) i would have had to hog out....right???
I need to get me a piece of practice glass too! SOON!!!
Posted: March 16th, 2004, 3:11 pm
by Delta Kits
I don't think I needed to "Hog out" the hole since i was using the tapered bit. If I was using the rounded bit (did I say that right) i would have had to hog out....right???
Other way around Mike...With the tapered point bits, they can bind up in the hole and snap off. It's less of a problem with the round point.
Posted: March 16th, 2004, 3:17 pm
by maxryde
You need to rotate the butt of the drill or risk breaking any bur!! Not to enlarge the hole. I sometimes have trouble getting my thought across

Sounds like progress!!!, go mike!!!! Oh and definatly get that practice glass
soon. Scott
