New curing light.

[Dave M]

This question is to Brent and I post it here in case others are wondering also. You advertise the new light as a 6v and can use either (one) 18650 or (two) RCR123 batteries. I had ordered the RCR123 batteries on line as that was my only choice, at the time. The RCR123 batteries are 3v each x 2 = 6v. The 18650 that you now have available on your site appear to be 3.7v
So, 2 batteries equal 6v or 1 battery equals 3.7v (different voltage)How does this work? Which is the better choice? I wish that 2 weeks ago when I made my purchase, the batteries would have been available. Now, you can purchase the light with 2 batteries and the charger!! I would have preferred to get this sale price and purchase the mount separate. GEEESH

[screenman]

Dave my light works on both, not sure how but it does. Now we know Delta have a new deal out but I bet they had not even thought about it when you bought yours.

l must admit I feel slightly responsible that you might have bought this product on my say so.

Just a thought even if you had bought the light with a battery you would still have purchased a spare, so how about I ask Delta to send you a battery and charger and bill it to me. This way you will not be out of pocket.


I cannot understand why you did not phone Delta direct and ask them the question it is always better to do that first.

[Dave M]

Screenman,
I appreciate your offer but I'm certainly not asking for anything free! I posted my question here as stated, so if anyone else had that same question regarding the battery difference it could be answered for all. I have talked to Delta about my purchase but I feel that this was more of a general type question. I do not intend to get into my purchase here on the forum.
As you stated "my light works on both, not sure how but it does." I'm simply trying to find out how and if one will be more reliable than the other.

[Mr Bill]

Any battery will have a lower voltage when it has a load hook up to it. ( When it is hooked up to something and making it work)
For example if you have eight 1.5 volt flashlight batteries hooked up in series to make 12 volts, it will not start your car because the load is too great ( and not enough current is available) and will pull the voltage down to zero. Your car battery is supposed to be 12 volts, but is actually 13.6 volts because the load of lighting the lights and starting the engine will pull it down to 12v or less depending on how hard it is working
So I imagine the 3.7 volt batteries will actually be 3.0 volts when actually doing work and powering the light.

[Dave M]

Thanks for your post Mr. Bill. That's what I don't understand. If the light is a 6v, how does a single 3v battery make it work when it needs two of the other type (RCR123)? This should probably be the "water cooler" huh?

[Mr Bill]

I use this battery.
It is a B-C 18650 3000mAh
3.7volts.
I hope I am doing the right thing here.

[screenman]

That is the battery I am using, the CR123 are now my spare reserves.

[Brent Deines]

Screenman,
I appreciate your offer but I'm certainly not asking for anything free! I posted my question here as stated, so if anyone else had that same question regarding the battery difference it could be answered for all. I have talked to Delta about my purchase but I feel that this was more of a general type question. I do not intend to get into my purchase here on the forum.
As you stated "my light works on both, not sure how but it does." I'm simply trying to find out how and if one will be more reliable than the other.

Dave, I wish I could tell you I completely understand the voltage thing but frankly even after having it explained to me several times I'm still left scratching my head. What I can tell you is that the Ignite is optimized for the 18650 battery but I had to have a couple of my employees trained before we could ship them, which was why we did not have them available when you purchased yours. We were also still waiting for a shipment of chargers and mounts when Screenman let the cat out of the bag and immediately forum members started talking about the RCR123 and CR123A batteries, which are a higher voltage. I figured if I recommended the 18650 battery on the forum I would have a dozen people beat me up over the fact that 2 smaller batteries put out higher voltage, which some will assume is better. I figure if Delta Kits customers want my recommendation they will contact me but if they post on the forum I figure they prefer to get advice from others, so I typically only answer questions on the forum that are directed toward Delta Kits.

Now that you have asked me publicly I will respond. While the RCR123 and CR123A batteries can be used to power the Ignite, Delta Kits recommends the 18650 for several reasons, most notably...

1) The 18650 fits better. You will notice the RCR123 and CR123A are smaller in diameter and can move around in the housing, sometimes creating contact issues that in rare cases render the light inoperable.

2) The 18650 does not get as hot. This is not a big problem when only using a few minutes at a time but during testing there was a noticeable difference.

3) While the RCR123 and CR123A batteries do have a slightly higher output, the difference in cure time is relatively insignificant.

Like most companies Delta Kits runs monthly specials but it wouldn't make much sense to tell customers a month or two in advance that we are going to put something on sale. It would defeat the purpose of having a sale. In fact, when you purchased your light we had no idea we were going to give away a free mount in January or two free batteries and a free changer in February and I still have no idea what we will put on special in March. Still, it's my sincere desire that Delta Kits customers are satisfied with the value of their purchases so please give me a call on Monday and I'll see what I can do to make things right with you. Screenman's offer was very generous but it was not his fault and although I like to give him a bad time about it, telling forum members about the Ignite before we were prepared to sell it was not a big deal.

Call me, we'll figure something out.

[Dave M]

Brent,
Thank you for your answer. That's what I was looking for! I'll give you a call on Monday.

[candyman]

I got the new UV light Thursday. Iam really impressed with it. Now I can put it in my pouch for large Trucks or SUV;s and not worry about cords, Btry packs and UV lamps. Dont make the mistake I did. I put it in my pants pocket so it wouldn't fall out of my shirt pocket. The thing turned on and heated my leg up in a matter of seconds. I also like the stand. the easy to use flip lever suction cup.