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Posted: September 15th, 2004, 6:09 pm
by jonnyques
Well guys I have to once again say thanks for all you advice and support! Today I did a BAD combo Bulls/Star. It had a HUGE pit! I took my time, did several cycles, cured under preasure, Poped the cup, put on the pit and tape and Done!! Wait whats that? A lower part of the bull didnt fill. I swear it looked great from the inside, this part was under the seal so it was hiding! This is where my thanks comes in! I thought Im not going to leave it like this, if need be Im using it as a learning tool. Out came the drill and I drilled down into the cavity. I tried to pop a bulls but I could see what looked like uncured resin moving as I flexed it. So I put the injector back on, and did the repair again. All said and done it looked damm good, and I got payed! Its only with the encouragement I feel I recieve here that I tried the second repair. Now I know I can, another herdal gone, whew time for a beer!
Thanks
Doing the same repair twice
Posted: September 15th, 2004, 6:54 pm
by Fasbreak
I second that! I have learned alot from the pros on this forum. Without advice from you true professionals I would still be doing poor repairs. Thanks a Million.
Stan
Posted: September 15th, 2004, 8:26 pm
by MadMike
I agree, thanks to all the experts for advice. Today I did a medium size batwing (3/8" long). Started my normal routine, (no drilling) and that sucker wouldn't fill. So, I pulled out the drill which I rarely do, and drilled, popped a mini bull, and bingo looked beautiful.
My hats off to all you folks willing to teach us rookies.
Posted: September 15th, 2004, 10:40 pm
by screenman
Mad Mike can you please give me the reasond you do not drill first, I only ask this as I personaly think it is this best way to go.
Drilling after injecting normaly wears drill bits down very quickly as the resin acts as a lubricant.
I always train people to drill batwings as you can see in my previous posts.
In fact could as many people as possible teel me why they do not like to use the drill.
It will help me when training people who are negative towards it.
Posted: September 16th, 2004, 6:08 am
by GlassStarz
I used to drill everything but after reading Jeffs repeated claims that delta doesnt feel drilling is needed in most cases i decided to give it a try. I now seldom drill and as much as I hate to admit it JEFF WAS RIGHT so I can see why you tried it without the drill" Because Thats The Right Way" I have found after several months I can now look and flex the chip with my probe and tell when the drill is needed but admitidly while learning how to recognise the difference Sometimes I had to take of the injector and break out the drill.
So from my point of view you did everything right you tried to do it the best way noticed that it wasnt working correctly made an ajustment and did a good job for the customer sounds like a pro to me the difference between the hack and the pro is the pro does what is needed to get the job done and the hack gives up and says
"Well it dont look much better but it wont spread now bubba"

Posted: September 16th, 2004, 7:31 am
by MadMike
Screenman, since I was officially trained by Delta several months ago, I now have Delta mentality of only drilling when its necessary. So I'm not against drilling, cuz its part of the tools necessary to do the job. Obviously I've only done about 2 dozen batwings, they have all filled in fine w/out drilling, except for about 3 that I've had to drill.
Someday soon, I hope to be like GlassStarz and learn to tell the difference.
Again, not against drilling. Just don't need it all the time. Plus I like the finished results better when I haven't drilled.