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Post by txbman68 »

Hi,

Just got 2 kits from ebay. One is a Glass Mechanix with the old vacuum system and the other is a Delta 300 bridge and complete kit. I made a a bullseye with the rubberband and bb. It looked like the "impacted bull's-eye break". I drilled the the pit, applied the 300 bridge, mirror and centered the bridge. Threaded the injector until the rubber tip was against the glass and then added 3-4 drops resin. I tried really hard not to apply to much pressure but am not sure if I applied to much pressure or not. I did not see any excess resin running out on the sides of the injector. So I assume I did not apply too much pressure. The instruction manual I have is actually from "The Ding King" it came with the delta kit. Damnit I need a delta training video and Delta instruction manual. The instruction manual I have says "very seldom does a repair take 1 cycle. A typical cycle will require 3-4 cycles until there is no visible black in the mirror when the injector is unscrewed from the injector body". I also applied heat as instructed from the "Ding King" video and instruction manual. Upon completing this process I dismounted the bridge and applied 1 drop of resin and the curing tape. I then applied the UV light and waited 5-6 minutes. Afterwards I scraped the excess resin off the window. I found that from drilling the hole had a black effect and still did not seem filled. Most of the cracks around the bull's-eye were gone but some were still there. Can someone please tell me what I am doing wrong or not doing right. Also I received a marketing video from Delta. It shows the bridge in use. I do not see how the spring loaded injector is alternating between vacuum and pressure. It does not seem to pull up and lock in place as shown in the video. Am I missing something here. Please help me.

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GAWD I NEED HELP!

Post by screenman »

You cannot learn this trade from video or books you must get training.

You might even find that video is not a promotion but actualy the lesson in how to use it, that is how bad some of the training is.
If you are serious about this business spend some money and start right you will soon recoup your investment, as you can see there are a lot of us out here that earn a very good living from screen repair I doubt if you will find many that did not start off with being trained somewhere.

Please read some of the other posts of the last few days.
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Post by DaveC »

JP,

While "official" training may not be realistic for you in the near future, two things come to mind.

1. Contact Delta and acquire their manual, video and expert advice. The manual and video (and live support) will explain how to lift and rotate to alternate between pressure and vacuum as well as many other things.

2. You practice to both learn and improve your skills/technique. How much pressure to use, how tight you should torque the injector to ensure a good seal but free flow of resin, how to drill so that the hole is not too obvious, etc. . . can all be ascertained through experimentation by practice.

Don't get discouraged. Learn your equipment and then develop your technique!
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Post by Delta Kits »

Hate to disagree with Screenman, but in this case, we have thousands of customers that would disagree regarding whether it's possible to learn from a video.

Also, we do have a promotional video, so i'm quite sure that's the one you have, especially after seeing what they try to pass off as a Delta Kit.

While I do recommend training, if you don't attend training, then you, without a doubt, need to purchase the training video. If you don't, you might as well resell it on Ebay. Watching a Ding King video will not help you.
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While it's not "impossible" to learn from a video the leaning curve is GREATLY diminished if you recieve hands on training.
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Post by Chips_Away_Windshield_Repair »

Making a bulls eye with a rubber band and bb on a customers windshield is not a good idea, it is generally used to make one on a practice windshield. There are tools available that you can use to create practice bulls eyes and star breaks----practice, practice :!: :!: :!:

Please take advantage of some professional training!

To create a generally perfect bullseye about 1/8th to 3/16th of an inch at the end of a crack, I like to use Delta's .024 pear shape burr, drill two-thirds through the outer layer, insert a blunt end of a broken burr tip, (smaller diameter than the .024 hole you've drilled). I tap the inserted burr with a small flashlight several times to create the bulls-eye. A good idea is to practice, practice, practice :!: :!: :!: on an old windshield at a junk yard or have a replacement shop cut some 24"x24" or so pieces from their dumpster.
Before drilling I use a carbide awl to gently scratch back and forth where I will drill to create a little hole to lessen the possibility of the burr skipping accross the glass and leaving scratches.

Keep reading this forum as there are many good, well trained techs who take their profession serousley (you know what I mean, computor kain't spell) and are always happy to help with anyone
wanting to improve their workmenship.

WSR is really a craft, learn and take pride in what you do for your customers.
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Post by screenman »

Be careful not to practise your mistakes. I feel that windscreen repair has remained undervalued over the years by people believing it is easy to learn and do.

Yes I agree it is not rocket science but we have far too many unskilled repairers in the business and I for one would like to see a standard set before allowing people to carry out so called repairs on windscreens.

This can only be achieved through training and certification.

A person who has a bad experience of screen repair is harder to sell to than one who has had a good experience.
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Post by Chips_Away_Windshield_Repair »

PS txbman68
you have a very nice website.
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Post by StarQuest »

I guess a video is better then no videoat all! Should give you some instructional help using the equipment and get you started with practice shields.

Screenman brings up a valid point though. Windshield repair success depends on much more than just watching a video tape. To date, I haven't ran into another successful repair tech that hasn't at one time or another had some hands on training. I wonder why? :roll:
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Post by gold star wsr »

Most of what I learned early on came from the videos that various companies sent along with their product information. I also learned a great deal from the internet websites and from coming to the forums. I had actully been doing wsr for more than a year before I went for formal hands-on training. By then I was was ready for more advanced instruction. I totally agree that in-person training is the best way to learn wsr, but it is incorrect to say that it is 'impossible' to learn wsr from videos. I am living proof that it can be done.
I believe in taking advantage of every means of education available. This includes manuals, videos, internet information, these forums as well as the training offered by the equipment manufacturers.
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