WSR speed

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Gbrad

WSR speed

Post by Gbrad »

I am looking to greatly improve my WSR speed. I use the Glass Weld system now but have just been informed that the provac might be my problem. I have also been told that by using the Delta bridge and injector it will take me 15 min at the most to completely fill most any type of break. Is that what all you other Delta kit owners are finding? If so I want in on this action.
Sneck

Re: WSR speed

Post by Sneck »

Gbrad,

I have used different equipment in the past, but I must say that Delta is fast because it is SIMPLE! SIMPLE! SIMPLE! Less parts, less steps, and that equals LESS TIME.

But here is a saying I read somewhere and I think of it EVERYTIME I do a repair... "Work the repair - not the clock". This is so true.

Different breaks, different glass, different weather conditions, different glass temperature, different air temperature, different resin temperature, different resin mfg's, different curing methods,.. etc.. etc.. etc... will all provide for different repair times.

Remember... "Work the repair - not the clock".

Ps. Realistically, the average time I spend on a repair - from the time I open my tool kit at the customers location - to the time I have put everything away and I am collecting money from the customer is about 30 minutes.

Don't rush. Do a darn good job. Make sure the resin has COMPLETELY filled every part of the damage, and cure it right. Even if it takes you an hour and someone says it should only take you 10 minutes, guess what... even at an hour you still made good money, and in your customers eyes, you definately earned your money.

"Work the repair - not the clock".

Sneck
Repair1

Re: WSR speed

Post by Repair1 »

Sneck,

I couldn't agree more very well said...

Happy Repairing

Briian
Glacier Auto Glass

Re: WSR speed

Post by Glacier Auto Glass »

Sneck - I totally agree. Last night in fact, It took me almost an hour to do one little repair. The chip was older and had a large impact point that had dirt cached it the surface and in the crack. I tried to clean it out with my probe and fill it just in case and like I thought, it didn't fill. I always use drilling as a last resort - I hate having to drill, makes for an ugly repair (thanks for the training Jeff). My resin would not flow - not with heat or added pressure from the inside. I had to drill on each side of the impact point and everything filled perfectly. That one chip basically turned into 3 chip repairs (I only charged him for the one obviously). He was thrilled with my professionalism. I explained to him before drilling what I was going to do and he was fine with it. Anyways, case and point - QUALITY matters no matter how long it takes.

I love Delta Kits system. I bought a double bridge kit (2 BRIDGES are a MUST) and that in itself will save you time if there are multiple chips being repaired. They are very simple - no extra crap! I have never used anything else to compare to - and I never will!
repare-brise

Re: WSR speed

Post by repare-brise »

Just to drive home the points mentioned above QUALITY IS MORE IMPORTANT THAN QUANTITY. I take the time to discuss a little with the customer, explain the repair process, why a repair is favorable to replacement, ect ect. By taking the time required with the customer, treating them with respect, instead of hurry up and finish, you will have a longer lasting business with the best form of advertiseing, Word of mouth.

Enjoy
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Re: WSR speed

Post by chips1144 »

G Brad, do you find the Provac awkward to use, Hard to pull vaccum?
StarQuest

Re: WSR speed

Post by StarQuest »

The speed of providing a quality repair should never be an issue. Lets all face it, some repairs fill great in that 5-10 minute window, while others take much longer!

If your in this business to succeed and build positive relationships.......the quality of your repair should always take precedence over time involved to obtain desired results.

Some people simply give up in repair because it becomes a time issue. By rushing your repair and leaving tips, air or by not correctly evaporizing moisture your only cheating yourself!


Always remember.....it's not how fast you can fill but the quality of your fill! Something for all you new guys to consider;)
mafsu

Re: WSR speed

Post by mafsu »

Once you get the quality where it needs to be, more speed will follow.
Gbrad

Re: WSR speed

Post by Gbrad »

Thanks for all the input. Chips, I do not find the pro-vac to be awkward at all but only because its all I have known for 8 years. As to all the comments about quality over quanity I completely understand and agree but I assumed I was asking the question with quality as a given.
Let me put my question another way using a sports analogy. I can play golf with a set of 1970 blades and a wooden driver or I can hit one with the 2005 big bertha over sized irons and there 300cc driver. Both will acomplish the same end result of hitting the golf ball but one does it much further, with more accuracy, and with more room for error so in turn gives you a better end result.
So I ask again as I reavaluate my WSR equipment and look for a shorter path to the same end result of a quality windshield repair is the Delta injector a faster more efficient tool to acomplish a completly filled and cured windshield repair.
StarQuest

Re: WSR speed

Post by StarQuest »

Gbrad,

Personally, I'm not familiar with the Pro-Vac system. Is it capable of providing multiple repairs simultaneously? That in itself can be worth major time savings, especially if your working rental or fleet accounts. I don't own Delta equipment but have had the opportunity to test with it on some practice shields. Is it quicker than what I'm currently using? No, not really.... it provides the same finished quality I'm looking for and is very user friendly.

If your interested in speeding up your repairs with your system it really boils down to a few things! Mainly your resin selection and your ability to be somewhat aggressive with your repair. If you chose to use a thin resin to speed up the repair (i.e filling tight legs on stars) Just remember that thin will fill quicker but doesn't always provide the inhanced cosmetic results as a medium or thicker resin would provide. What is the time difference from thin to thicker? Only about 5-8 minutes from my past experience. When I say being aggresive with your repair what I'm actually referring to is your probing abilities. Many techs only feel comfortable using their probe as a last result when resin isn't flowing. The truth is if you want a quick fill you'll have to probe without any fear to speed up your process. I probe both vaccum and pressure cycles during a repair. Do I have too use this procedure for a complete fill? No, not really but it does speed up things and makes the repair more exciting for me to work with. Some techs on this forum say repairs are a no brainer......in which they're probably right! However, although it doesn't take a brain surgeon to make money in this business......it does involve spending time to develope your skills and rise above your competition by completing higher quality repairs.

Question I have for you? Do you know what vaccum your pro-vac system is currently pulling? At sea level I believe the maximum vaccum that can be achieved is 27-28 inch pounds.(someone correct me if I'm wrong) In my area of Michigan the best I can pull is around 24"-25" lbs. Which is not bad for my power and vac equipment. If your pulling less than 20" lbs of vacuum with your stuff that would definately slow your repairs down. Can't fill something if traped air is still present. Not sure what Delta stuff pulls, had no way of testing it. I'm sure Jeff knows;)

Anyways, without drifting to much off course here. The answer to your post remains the same. Quality is by far more important then the speed of repair. If you feel by changing equipment you'll have faster repairs.....go for it!!! But I really believe the equipment has little to do with it. You just have to work at being better at what you do....no offense intended but my true honest opinion.
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