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Machine based systems

Posted: April 12th, 2006, 2:45 pm
by burnman
There is a old and brief discussion on the use of the Machine based systems such as the Eliminator and Maxim sold by GT. There are also a few other systems using hand vacuum pumps in the WR process.

Is there any proof that the additional vacuum created by these systems will result in a better and faster repair. Are there any on this forum using machine based systems.

I'm getting into the business soon and am wondering if the added expense for machine vacuum is worth it in the final results. If the machine can speed up the repair, then it might be worth it. If the machine makes a better repair, then it would also be worth it in customer satisfaction.

I'd like to hear from someone who has a machine based system as it seems that most use manual systems.

Re: Machine based systems

Posted: April 12th, 2006, 4:54 pm
by GlassTechnics
Hi burnman
Every system whether manual or automated can have it's pros and cons. At the end of the day it is the attention to detail and dedication of the operator which dictates if a repair is successful or not. Sometimes speed of operation is not the answer to customer or technician satisfaction. Quality is dictated by the professionalism of the windshield repair technician and not necessarily by his tools.

Re: Machine based systems

Posted: April 12th, 2006, 9:29 pm
by Bois
I agree with Glass Technics. I don't use automated machines or hand pumps. To me they're gimmicks and if they DO speed up the process, I'd have to say that the time saved is minimum vs quality. I use Delta Kits injectors where I can control pressure, etc.

Dale...

Re: Machine based systems

Posted: April 13th, 2006, 7:55 pm
by toab
I have an older style vac pressure pump set up that i am using for crack repair.I have found it to be a little better than the screw injector system that I also have in my inventory although more cumbersome.(pump sys') I have not tryed the delta bridge yet but the spring pressure system looks interesting.

Re: Machine based systems

Posted: April 15th, 2006, 3:12 pm
by burnman
Thanks guys. I was hoping that someone on this forum actuallly used this type of equipment.

Re: Machine based systems

Posted: April 15th, 2006, 5:48 pm
by sunshine wr
Since nobody here responed that they use the "machine based"systems you spoke of , Hmmm, maybe that answered your question.

Re: Machine based systems

Posted: April 15th, 2006, 9:29 pm
by SGT
I believe that Mike Burstein, AKA: "The Chip Doctor" of Dominion Windshield Repair might use the type of system you seek knowledge in. You could send him a PM or contact him through his site. MASFU might use this type of equipment as well. Should help somewhat.

The important thing to remember is go with what best matches your needs but master the equipment you choose.

Re: Machine based systems

Posted: April 16th, 2006, 6:59 am
by sunshine wr
Most Superglass guys I see are using them also.

Re: Machine based systems

Posted: April 16th, 2006, 7:20 am
by toab
I think that the big glass giants up here are useing some type of automated system but I don't know much about how well it works. however I will be approaching 1or 2 of the local shops to try to set up a "referral for repairs" relationship because I don't plan on doing replacements and I've heard that the giants do not like repair much anyways. I'II keep you guys posted with my findings.

Re: Machine based systems

Posted: April 16th, 2006, 10:51 am
by burnman
I remember a long time ago I got a windshied repaired and the guy had a large machine in the shop to make vacuum. From what you guys are saying, there is no real advantage to a machine based system. I must admit, I like the GT Maxim. Everything including power in a little box. The price is the only turn-off at about twice of a hand operated system. I still have not decided on which to buy but will be going down for a free demo before I buy. On the topy of GT, anyone using their resins?