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Liquid Resins WSR Video

Posted: May 8th, 2008, 8:24 pm
by starstruck
On their website...shows use of their equipment on an actual repair. No use of pit resin and only 3.5 minutes of curing time? Hmmmmmm

Re: Liquid Resins WSR Video

Posted: May 8th, 2008, 9:34 pm
by maxryde
LR's Training vids are a bit rough, but the equipment and technique's are sound.

They sell pit filler, and while the training vids may not always show this or that, a person needs to read the information supplied, sooo....

I have and use their equipment, twice today as a matter of fact, the results are as good as any I use, (delta) it's a matter of application, and preference. In this business good judgement is a must!! So my point is never stop trying new and different things. This business is still in it's infancy! As an example I will refer to the newest addition to Deltas line the "Gene :eusa_whis slide Hammer", can't wait to get me one!!

Re: Liquid Resins WSR Video

Posted: May 8th, 2008, 10:17 pm
by GlassStarz
why use pit filler when there isnt a pit? I have had one bottle of pit filler for 2 years remove the injector place the tab on the resin cure and scrape if the light is bright enough 3 minutes will do it with the LR resin the pit resin is thicker to fill the big divot if it isnt there I dont use it and you dont get the stupid bubble

Re: Liquid Resins WSR Video

Posted: May 8th, 2008, 10:27 pm
by GlassStarz
and with thier injector you get such good suction you dont need to drill much the injector give consistant pressure and follows with strong vac put your finger on the bottom and pull the plunger up you will give yourself a blister with the suction. The material the injector is made of is consistant whether the weather is hot or cold just plain awesome injector if you ask me

Re: Liquid Resins WSR Video

Posted: May 9th, 2008, 4:32 am
by starstruck
Well if their equipment and technique works for you I guess that is all that really matters. I just wasn't impressed.

Re: Liquid Resins WSR Video

Posted: May 9th, 2008, 4:34 am
by starstruck
Oh and in that video, there WAS a fairly signicant pit that should have been filled with pit resin instead of just slapping a curing tab over the repair resin. JMHO

Re: Liquid Resins WSR Video

Posted: May 9th, 2008, 8:00 am
by harrellbenjamin
GlassStarz;30504 wrote:and with thier injector you get such good suction you dont need to drill much the injector give consistant pressure and follows with strong vac put your finger on the bottom and pull the plunger up you will give yourself a blister with the suction. The material the injector is made of is consistant whether the weather is hot or cold just plain awesome injector if you ask me
Do you have the Quad thread?? Looks interesting too

Re: Liquid Resins WSR Video

Posted: May 9th, 2008, 9:18 am
by SGT
GlassStarz;30503 wrote:why use pit filler when there isnt a pit? I have had one bottle of pit filler for 2 years remove the injector place the tab on the resin cure and scrape if the light is bright enough 3 minutes will do it with the LR resin the pit resin is thicker to fill the big divot if it isnt there I dont use it and you dont get the stupid bubble

I do not know much about LR resins since they did not send me the Resin Tech Data. I do know a few who use LR and are quite pleased. I have always been under the impression, the primary reason pit resins are used is becuse they have been formulated to be much harder when cured to withstand the elements. I would imagine this applies to small or large pits. If LR resins do have the same hardness when cured it looks like you save yourself a step in the process.

Re: Liquid Resins WSR Video

Posted: May 9th, 2008, 1:02 pm
by Brent Deines
You are absolutely right. The pit resin is not simply a higher viscosity product, it is completely different, at least Delta Kits pit resin that is. One of the differences is that it is harder and therefore weathers and polishes better. Delta Kits low and medium viscosity resins are formulated to be more flexible, and therefore are better for injecting into the break than a thinned down version of our pit resin would be.

That said, many windshield repair technicians prefer not to use pit resin, or polish their filled pits. In fact, some are not even concerned if the finished pit area is not completely flush with the glass. The repair will hold just as well, but in my opinion it is not finished as well as it could be.

If you can't feel the break and the pit area is very small you can get buy without using pit resin, but the larger the pit area to be filled the more important it is to use the proper resin, and to polish the surface for optimal clarity.

To the best of my knowledge pit resin is never "required", but to me is the difference between a good repair and a great repair, but again, that is only my opinion.

Re: Liquid Resins WSR Video

Posted: May 9th, 2008, 8:37 pm
by GlassStarz
Here is my view of it The pit resin is thick and hard so it filles the pit without running out and yes sometimes you need it. But when you live in a place with major climate changes it has been my experience that with the swelling and shrinking of the glass when it gets real hot or real cold after time often the pit falls out we have all seen old repairs where the pit fell out. The thinner seems to stay in there better and we all have seen the bubble that often appears between the two when pit filler is added they are different materials and different viscosities result they dont allways bond together. If you skip the pit you get a bubble free connected fill. To link that way of filling and finishing with the guys who are too lazy to scrape and polish finished repairs isnt really fair. we all know some do bad repairs and cut steps but just because you do it one way doesnt mean that is the only way the old adage "there is more than one way to skin a cat" applies here I do know that after I started skipping the pit filler I stopped seing any of my old repairs where the divot fell out Works for me!