Glas Weld

[CPR]

Good post Jeremiah, tells it like it is.

[GlasWeldTech]

Sunshine,
When I first read the original post I knew how this thread would end up. I mean after all it IS a DELTA Forum. I enjoy reading all the posts and could probably chime in more to help but after all I don't use "their" equipment sooooo, this does make for some good reading at night.

[Delta Kits]

When I first read the original post I knew how this thread would end up. I mean after all it IS a DELTA Forum.

Not to quibble, but this is a windshield repair forum, which is moderated by Delta Kits. There's a big difference.

This is a forum where people can freely discuss equipment recommendations, as long as they remain civil and don't resort to bashing.

Was that what you meant?

[sunshine wr]

Yeah , GWT it does get interesting here from time to time.

[GlasWeldTech]

Hey Jeff,
Take it easy there. Yes that was what I meant. Just seems like MOST times if you use the other brand than we are labeled beneath some people. I may be reading into this more than you as I am on the outside looking in. Not FLAMING anyone or any brand. I could probably do a good repair with delta equipment I just chose another route to follow is all. And you know when you ask me to help out, although it is with other equipment I always do. Who knows I may wind up with some delta equipment off ebay soon if the price is right. If someone asks me something I will respond for them and am always here reading at night. I would feel a lot better helping someone with equipment that I know so if someone has a problem with delta then for the most part I can't help. Mine is completely different. But on the other hand at times it seems alright for certain people to knock other equipment. I just like to be fair and OPEN minded.

[Almost-New WSR]

I wouldn't be able to offer you any advice on their "stuff". Interestingly enough, you can't even see a demo, or buy (if you could afford) a single piece of GW equipment without first signing up and commiting (money involved?) to a 3 day training class. Hmmm. Interesting at the very least.

Sounds like you need to buy the cow without tasting the milk.

Aside from the fact that I simply cannot understand how they will offer NO DEMO (even at an expo!) for you to "buy" their statement that they are the best, you can get great repairs from other systems (like delta) for much less, just like Jeremiah states, so long as you understand the system and use it properly!

Good luck in your hunt.

(ps. Delta user...Self-Employed!)

[Jeremiahswindshieldrepair]

I think the post has been very civil actually

If I had to pick 2 pieces of equipment that were top quality I would pick both Delta and GW. I certainly hold no ill will against GlasWeld at all and I hope it didn't come out like that. I do think there are differences, like GW has 3 seals and Delta has only 1, that is less to go wrong in my book. They both use stainless steel and suction but the Delta suction seems more secure due to the vaccuum seal on the pump, With GW you have to use a seperate bridge for edge chips, with Delta you can do cracks, chips, edge chips and anything else there is with just one bridge, the price of the GW is much much higher than a Delta .... none of these things makes the GW bridge inferior at all. They can both do fantastic repairs, it's just when considering a piece of equipment that is not the only thing to consider.

[CGlenn]

I am a Glas-Weld user and I have a few honest questions for Delta users.

1. Vacuum - how much vacuum will a delta injector pull?

2. When pulling a vacuum and the air is removed, where does the air go? Is there a way for the air to escape or is it simply injected back in to the break?

3. Resin - is the Delta resin tested both in house as well as outside indpendent testing, and what are the tensile strengths of the resins?

4. Training - I see that the factory training is one day. I attended Glas-Weld training and I can not imagine getting anything even remotely close to the quality of training I received in my THREE DAY training. Not only did we get hands-on, but we were truly educated in windshield repair history as well as given an incredible base of technical knowledge on the industry. What does Delta training offer in their one day class?

As I said, these are honest questions and in NO way should they be taken as anything else. All I know about DELTA is what I read on the site and the forum. I do know that I LOVE Glas-Weld and just as you have Chevy vs. Ford fans, I would have to be a loyal Glas-Weld guy.

[glass tek]

Oh Yeah!!! Well my dad can beat up your dad!

Sorry guys, just trying to inject some humor. Honestly though, I feel like most equipment, used properly, can deliver quality repairs. As for training, one day or one week, your real training begins on the job! I prefer Glass Mechanix injectors and Delta resins, but I have learned repair techiques from other manufacturers that have improved my repairs tremendously!!

[glassdoctor]

I have to jump in for a second. First let it be known that I don't use Delta or Glasweld equipment or resin, although I do have it in my basement out of curiosity. What I use doesn't matter here.

CGlenn: No offense, but those questions are meaningless in that the answers literally don't matter. The results matter. Also the questions are not honest, but are meant to stir things up... like insulting someone. Fore example:

#1 The only question with any merit, but still doesn't matter because there isn't a huge amount of vacuum needed for wsr. Nothing pulls more vacuum than a cheap mitivac pump anyway in case anyone wondered...
#2 Propaganda... extracted air won't be pushed back into the break with either brand. (come on now... who said that?)
#3 Sounds like political mud slinging... just like motor oil, everyone claims to have the best test results. He said she said.
#4 That's pretty funny... unless you have attended both training camps, you can't judge and compare. Off topic anyway....

IMO both Glasweld and Delta have good equipment and have loyal happy customers to back them up.

I think the main difference between brands of wsr equipment is in the usability more than capability. They are all capable of good repairs. Each system has it's strengths and weakness, IMO.

Sorry if I stepped out of line... I'm not taking sides, just felt like typing for a minute.

Now I need some sleep so I can do all the repairs waiting for me tomorrow.