Inside crack

[repare-brise]

Scratchy

I load my injector before putting it on the WS(as I usually do), and I use my injector base just like on the outside of the WS. The injectors and base that I use can be used upside-down if needed, no special adaptors, or techniques required.

Merci

[screenman]

I thought I should add to this post. If I abided by your NWRA rules I think I would drop about a third of my income.

Give me inside/outside/upsidedown/roundabout/long cracks/short cracks/ very long cracks and very very long cracks and I will try them all and charge. Only by pushing the limits can we know what can and cannot be done.

A 12 inch crack is only 2 six inch cracks and the resin suppliers tell us that repair is stronger than the original screen so just keep doing those repairs and your income will increase inside or out if you have the tools what is the diffrence.

I am just about to put my fingers in my ears because this reply is sure to cause some noise.

[Nomad]

I agree 100% Screenman. It wasn't long ago that no damage of any kind on any windshield could be repaired. I have an injector that works upside down and generally only use it on inside cracks. If I can access the damage I have had successful repairs on the inside. Everything is the same as the outside, only upside down. And yes you do have to have a good UV lamp.

By the way Screenman, you mentioned that optimer is still in business in the UK. Could you post their website or how to contact them and do you know if they are the same products as were sold here. I really like their pit filler.

[StarQuest]

Screenman,

You can't be serious about what you just said. For the sake of money would you really repair anything and everything with no regard to the saftey of the consumer? Repair should have it's limits. I'm sorry to say this but your perception of repairing everything is totally wrong! Do you actually believe every long crack repair you've performed is as strong as the original manufactured installed windscreen because a supplier told you so? Please show me some documented feeds by suppliers or other glass manufactures because I can't find them. I know Delta is not one of them.

Having personally been on the repair end and the replacement end of this business for 16 years....I can personally attest that long crack repairs can fail. How do I know this? Simple....before cutting out a shield I'll put a foot to where the last long crack repair was done and apply pressure. So far every one continues to expand. If I can accomplish that with my foot, what do you think would happen in a roll over situation? In the US it would be a major legal matter and quess who would loose! Attorneys would eat us up! Remember when McDonalds was sued for coffee being spilled on somebodys lap and being awarded millions. Same thing could happen someday in repair if you decide to repair stuff that should be left alone.

Inside cracks? Show me one glass repair supplier or insurance company that advocates attempting these repairs!!!! To date I have found none.

Pretty much all I have to say, your more than welcome to respond;)

[glassfixerCO]

Starquest,
I think even a 6" crack would spread if someone jumped on it (IMO). :eusa_thin

[screenman]

Starquest we have just pushed out a screen and it cracked every where I put my foot, If I do not repair these screens either some of the customers will just leave it or some will get a less experienced guy to attempt repair and some will replace. All the screens I repair are safer after the repair than they were before.

BS AU 242 some resins passed at 127% of actual strenght of glass I think Novus and Esprit were amongst these. Correct me someone if I am wrong.

If a manufacturer does not gaurantee his resin how can we gaurantee repairs.

[Layne]

Well heck!

If we all looked for prior proof man would have never made it to the moon!

Let's not squelch research and some people's idea to take another step forward.

Go for it guys and share your successes with the rest of us that believe in you.

[repare-brise]

I agree with screenman, a repair is always an improvment over a broken WS. Like him I am not burdened by an over zealous legal system that allows for frivolous law suits.

As far as testing goes I have done many ball drop tests and can attest that a repaired crack is at least as strong as the original WS(see http://www.ultrabond.com , click on windshiels safety, for a detailed study), and as mentioned by screenman it is much stronger than the alternative which is no repair or replacement. I know of some WS replacement shops that follow all the recomended proceedures, and time delays, but they are unfortunatly very rare. You can ask you local towing companies(who should be your customers) about failed WS instalations, as well as the local emergency rescue workers, They will all attest that a replacement WS is not as effective as an original factory installed unit. Even an unrepaired WS in my eye's is safer than a badly replaced one, at least the original bond is intact and one of the 2 panes of glass is giving 100% support and the other is atleast giving 50%, that equal 75% of the original structure is in tact, a replacement(badly installed) can not beat that. If a broken WS were that week then as soon as you got a stone chip it would crack out completeley, but owing to its composite structure it remains strong even when we think it's not.

The preceeding is soley my opinions and do not reflect the opinions of this boards administration in any way.

Merci

[shermfiddle]

I have no problem placing my GM injector on the inside of the windshield unless the crack is too close to the dash to have room to put it in place. My injector loads resin from the bottom of the injector so it can't leak out upside down. I do place paper towels on the dash just in case I have an accident with my resins and equipment. I then cure under pressure with my UV lamp as everyone knows that a windshield blocks the Sun's UV rays from the inside.

[V-Glass]

I'm with repair-brise in that the strength of the factory shield is worth repairing if at all possible. I personally have no limit to how many I'll fix on my personal vehicle, hell, it's like a collection I'm building! But guess what, I take comfort in knowing my FACTORY sealed shield aint' goin nowhere!