To Drill or Not To Drill
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Re: "To Drill or Not To Drill
Brian
When I talk about drilling I mean actualy punching a hole as we talked about earlier I dont consider surface drilling to be the same thing. You clean the pit with the drill bit and I use a probe pretty much the same thing and certainly every chip gets hit with the probe. It is important to make sure that people know the difference some think a drill has to make a hole every time.
I have seen you work a couple years ago in Beaverton and your right about the quality we couldnt find the chip afterwards and the lease company didnt either when my bud turned it in so obviosly your way works well.
When I talk about drilling I mean actualy punching a hole as we talked about earlier I dont consider surface drilling to be the same thing. You clean the pit with the drill bit and I use a probe pretty much the same thing and certainly every chip gets hit with the probe. It is important to make sure that people know the difference some think a drill has to make a hole every time.
I have seen you work a couple years ago in Beaverton and your right about the quality we couldnt find the chip afterwards and the lease company didnt either when my bud turned it in so obviosly your way works well.
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I drill mine to have more surface area for the pit resin to adhere to.
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I think I got a little excited last night and went off a bit on my post. Yesterday was a hard day for me I found out maybe 30 minutes before I posted that a 10 year old boy that my sone (who is 10 also) plays with at church and I have wrestled with and chased around and stuff ... I found out he has lymphnoid cancer and started Chemo today. As if that wasn't enough we had an IRS audit of the business at 3pm yesterday and due to our foray into the Jiffy Lubes and back payroll taxes we owe they are going to put a tax lien on my business and inform all of my accounts that the checks go to them instead of me ... which of course means I can no longer do business and all of my accounts are gone. Then they are going to garnish my bank account and put a personal lien on me and my house and any wages I might make in my secondary career of Real Estate (yes I am a licensed real estate agent in Oregon). All this if I don't come up with $22,000 by Friday of this week. As if that wasn't enough I had a real estate deal fall through that I figured I would be getting paid on ..... Sprint shut my cell phone off last night also, so suffice it to say that I have had better days than the day I had yesterday.
It's not that business is bad, in fact business is good .. I have TONs of fleet accounts, I do well in tents, I have great employees now, it's just this Jiffy Lube thing screwed me pretty bad. Well anyhow enough about me, I just wanted to explain why I got a little excited about the post last night. Coincidently I was able to max out my last credit card and get my cell phone back on so it works now
It's not that business is bad, in fact business is good .. I have TONs of fleet accounts, I do well in tents, I have great employees now, it's just this Jiffy Lube thing screwed me pretty bad. Well anyhow enough about me, I just wanted to explain why I got a little excited about the post last night. Coincidently I was able to max out my last credit card and get my cell phone back on so it works now

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WHAT? that SUCKS! not to sound obvious but holy crap that is a pretty hard core thing to happen. hope you will see better days my friend.
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Brian,
I think this certainly qualifies as a VERY bad day. I would encourage you to maintain your foundational principles. I attended the San Antonio training (I was the guy sitting next to you at lunch). One thing you said that day that really impressed me is that you told me that your family and operating honestly with integrity is what was most important to you, and not the money. These trials you are now enduring is simply a bump in the road. Keep to your principles, keep the faith and you will come out a better man.
I don't mean to pry into your personal business, so if I'm out of line here, just tell me to go crack a windshield. But as for what brought this problem on, you indicated something about Jiffy Lube. Is this issue something specific to your operation, or is it an issue that we could all easily fall into?
"May your camel spit nothing but dates"
C. Holton
I think this certainly qualifies as a VERY bad day. I would encourage you to maintain your foundational principles. I attended the San Antonio training (I was the guy sitting next to you at lunch). One thing you said that day that really impressed me is that you told me that your family and operating honestly with integrity is what was most important to you, and not the money. These trials you are now enduring is simply a bump in the road. Keep to your principles, keep the faith and you will come out a better man.
I don't mean to pry into your personal business, so if I'm out of line here, just tell me to go crack a windshield. But as for what brought this problem on, you indicated something about Jiffy Lube. Is this issue something specific to your operation, or is it an issue that we could all easily fall into?
"May your camel spit nothing but dates"
C. Holton
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The Jiffy lube thing is nothing anyone here will be worrying about anytime soon. What I did was tried to put my own guys in many Jiffy Lubes and it went well for a while but expenses started eating me up and we had to get out. When we pulled out we started a program that instead of putting our own guys in Jiffy Lubes we would train their people how to do chips and we had 1 manager per 20 stores who would go around encouraging and constantly training everyone at their stores. We also did all the billing and charged a pretty penny for the whole package. That went well also until we found that the Jiffy Lube guys would only do chips consistantly when we were at the store to look good for our report to the boss. Long story short we lost our shirt on that whole deal but I learned a TON about employees, training, selling, prospecting for business nationwide and many other things so I don't regret any of it. We just ran out of money and everyone left us so we were left with lots of bills and back tax debt. That was a couple years ago and it just finally caught up with us yesterday.
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Brian
My prayers are with you, I hope one day you will be able to look back and remember only the good parts of that day, and the lessons learned. To clarify something related to the subject, what you call drilling I would probably refer too as cleaning the pit surface. Like you I put aside my probe a long while ago and drill every chip. The nuance is that yes I use my drill on every chip to clean out the pit, but I don't bore a hole into the glass. When the word drilling is used most would take it to mean(as there resposes indicate) boring a hole much deeper that the original pit. Once again have courage in you hour(s) of challenge.
Merci
My prayers are with you, I hope one day you will be able to look back and remember only the good parts of that day, and the lessons learned. To clarify something related to the subject, what you call drilling I would probably refer too as cleaning the pit surface. Like you I put aside my probe a long while ago and drill every chip. The nuance is that yes I use my drill on every chip to clean out the pit, but I don't bore a hole into the glass. When the word drilling is used most would take it to mean(as there resposes indicate) boring a hole much deeper that the original pit. Once again have courage in you hour(s) of challenge.
Merci
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Yes life will go on and I will learn from this and from my point of view everything happens for a reason and all things come together for good if you stick to your moral values nd do what is right in the end.
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Thank you all for a lot of good and also interesting tips and point of views. A Forum has to have a deverse membership to be good and this is a good Forum.
Good luck with the tax folks Brian. Over the years I've been audited and came up oweing more than your bill once or twice. They will work with you on setting up a payment plan. The only thing wrong with that is the penalties keep piling up until the whole thing is paid. Try to avoid any Federal liens on any of your assets. A co-worker had this happen to him and it took over 5 years to get all the liens and paper work straight after he had them paid off!!
I meet you in San Antonio and you strike me as a person who will get done whats needs to be and move on to better things taking the "Lessons Learned" with you..
DaveR
Good luck with the tax folks Brian. Over the years I've been audited and came up oweing more than your bill once or twice. They will work with you on setting up a payment plan. The only thing wrong with that is the penalties keep piling up until the whole thing is paid. Try to avoid any Federal liens on any of your assets. A co-worker had this happen to him and it took over 5 years to get all the liens and paper work straight after he had them paid off!!
I meet you in San Antonio and you strike me as a person who will get done whats needs to be and move on to better things taking the "Lessons Learned" with you..
DaveR
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