Quick curing lamp?

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code3wsr

Re: Quick curing lamp?

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It's neither the glass nor the layer thats tinted. It all starts late at night in the glass factory. Around midnight the UV elf and several of his helpers come in and chant a magic song that makes the windshield block uv light.

But I have nothing to back that up......or do I??? :)
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Re: Quick curing lamp?

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Mafsu,

A windshield blocks more than 50% of the UV. Most of that protection actually comes from the glass itself, but a small amount does come from the PVB...

Couple things first...

The Pro Cure light can cure resin.
The sun can cure resin.

Now that we've got those things out of the way, here's the thing. With UV light, it's very easy to test the claims of manufacturers. If you have a UV meter, you can tell exactly what our light puts out, versus the sun, versus the Pro Cure.

Sun VS. Lamp:

Right now, Eugene Oregon (approximately 45th parallel), mostly sunny 65 degrees, 3:00pm. Our standard light puts out 3.5 times the UV energy (in the curable range) that the sun does.

Now, does that mean the sun never puts out more? No, of course not. In the summer here, there will be more UV energy from the sun. Also, if it's bright and sunny, you're in Arizona, knock yourself out. Farther north you go though, the more careful you have to be. The whole point is, just because it's warm and sunny, does NOT mean that you've got much UV energy in the curable range. And unfortunately, it's very hard to determine whether a repair is fully cured inside the glass, because as well all know, pit resin will cure in less than a minute no problem.

I know I know. We're the big bad manufacturer, trying to sell each and every one of you a lamp. Whatever. The sun WILL work, but sometimes better than uv lights, sometimes worse, but more importantly, unless you're in extreme conditions, or have a meter, you won't know.

Pro Cure VS. Other Lamps:

Now, here's where i'll ruffle some feathers...(sorry GlasWeldTech :)). This truly isn't meant to bash anyone. It's simply testing that we have done. If people want to buy from Glasweld, go right ahead, but if you want the most UV output in the curable range that Glasweld sells, go with their standard lamp (which is the same one we sell). That light puts out twice the UV output in the curable range than the Pro Cure! I wanted to say generically the "quick cure lights," but unfortunately so many people have been naming this light. We have tested this light. It's by NO MEANS a bad light. It puts out a sufficient amount of uv light, will cure resin, all that stuff. I'm not saying it doesn't work, i'm not saying anything other than the curable UV output is lower than their standard light, and therefore it will cure slower than their standard light, and it's not a "quick cure" light.

Now, for Glasweld systems and the way they do repairs, it makes sense to have a light that fits over their bridge. So, there may be other reasons for Glasweld users to use that light, but it's not because it's a "quick cure."

Before you Glasweld people jump all over me, numbers are numbers. Let me just say that ANYONE can do the exact same test I did. If you want to purchase a UV light meter and do your own testing, private message me and i'll show you where you can get them.
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mafsu

Re: Quick curing lamp?

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Thanks for clearing that up about what blocks the uv. Does this mean this glass is tinted?
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Re: Quick curing lamp?

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mafsu wrote:Thanks for clearing that up about what blocks the uv. Does this mean this glass is tinted?
Yes. Virtually all glass is tinted.
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CGlenn

Re: Quick curing lamp?

Post by CGlenn »

I think the reason Glas-Weld says that it is a quicker cure is because it cures from ALL angles and sides at one time. With their standard light, they recommend curing on each side of their bridge which would make it 3 times longer than the round light (according to Manufacturers suggestions). The round light is supposed to fully cure in 60 seconds. I find that the pit filler cures in almost half that.

As far as the sun goes, do you guys use mirrors to get the uv light to hit the areas of the break that is in the shadow of the injector?
mafsu

Re: Quick curing lamp?

Post by mafsu »

Sorry, I'm not trying to sound ignorant. The reason I am asking these questions, is that in the past I have had several lengthy conversations with resin suppliers who sold me on using clear resin only. Their reson for this was that the glass is clear and the inner layer is tinted. Just wanting to clarify for myself how much of a dope I am for buying into it. I have refused to try tinted resins in the past because I had been informed by several sources that it was a gimmick. Guess that gives me something new to play with.
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