What about novus?

[northidahotim]

Does anyone know about Novus. The big fish in my town is a Novus repairman. He's been around for 20 yrs. or so. I've been on a few repairs on windshields that he had been on and the repairs were, how do you say this nicely, poor. I was told that the Novus equipment is the reason for this. I know Novus has been around a long time and seem to have a national presence so I find it hard to believe that it could be the equipment and being around as long as this gentleman has I'm sure he knows his glass inside and out. I am in no way looking for info to bad mouth my competition as that is not the way I work but am just curious. Any input, as always, is greatly appreciated.

[screenman]

I think it is sometimes hard to judge what was a bad repair if we did not see the damage in the first place. Most of us if honest do not do fantastic invisible repairs 100% of the time. If we did then I would suggest we are cherry picking and losing out on a lot of income.

As for the Novus equipment to a lot of us this is some of the finest and easiest to use and will turn out the same quality of repair as most other quality kits.

Do your homework on Novus you will find it goes back a long way in the history of repair in fact right back to the beginning in about 73 I think.

It can be hard when someone has been in the market that long but he cannot be everywhere all the time, just keep knocking on doors and you will get the yes word more often.

I think it is never a good idea to talk bad about the oppostion because in a way you are saying the customer is not so clever for choosing and using them.

[sunshine wr]

northidahotim, Are you sure these repairs are the novus guy's? Alot of cars come in with repairs already done elsewhere.

[northidahotim]

I actually did a repair on a Novus customer who had three repairs done by the novus guy and they all looked horrible. In fact the one I was repairing had already been repaired six months prior and the guy didn;t realize that it was one that had already been repaired. I guess it had been repaired six months prior. It was jsut happenstance that I picked him up as a customer. Like I said I'm not looking to bad mouth anyone but was jsut wondering if you guys had some input on their system.

[GlassStarz]

Its not the tool that makes poor repairs its the fool useing it

[bill4117]

i have personally done some A+ repairs with the old novus plastic piston injectors. (i didn't realize how inferior the injectors were at the time) so i say if you can do top quality work with inferior tools my work quality darned well better improve with my EZK system.

[screenman]

Bill4177

Part of my business is training windshield repair to people who have purchased kits from numerous different sources and have not been trained to use them properly, so as you can guess I have lost count of the number of various systems I have used. Guess what for personal use I still use Novus plastic injectors. Please tell my why you say Novus injectors are poor.

I personaly can see no avdantage in using any type of metal over plastic, Novus is one of the few injectors that actually due to the design of its internal seal pulls a vaccuum when you unscrew the injector. Unlike most injectors yours I expect included rely on the pressure built up by you injecting resin to force the air out when you release said pressure. There are many copies of Novus equipment around the world although we are yet to see any that are as good. That said it is only my personal experience, please add your reasons as requested why you do not like Novus tools it can only help when we experienced guys make precise staements about what is actualy wrong about the designs it helps us get it right.

As for the design of the Novus bridge one handed operation never had one drop off screen in 18 years. The sputnik design where the injector sits is superb just think about it all the load spread away from the break and you need less pressure to seal the injector. A lot of sytems rely on substantial pressure on the injector on the screen this will in effect close up a lot of diffrent types of damage making it harder and slower to fill.

The first people to think of dry out, the first 9 watt curing lamp, the first uv cure repair resin the list goes on lets thank these guys.

Last but not least would we have a windscreen repair market without Novus they were certainly the market leaders for many years before the TCGI buy out.

[Layne]

Screenman--I have seen your posts in here for the last couple of years. You share your opinions and expertise with everyone.

And I might add that I too use Novus equipment and have for the last 9 years. Happy with it.

[northidahotim]

I think you guys for clearing this up for me. I'm new at this and seem to have been misinformed. The only experiendce I have is the one. That's why I posted this thread. I am in no way trying to bad mouth Novus. I realize their history in the business and that's why I wanted to post and get your guys feedback and you have all cleared it up for me. thanks

[bill4117]

well screenman i don't feel all novus products are "poor". i've personally only used novus injectors, i haven't even used a novus bridge. the company i presently work for supplies the equipment. they buy the cheapest of everything and novus injectors give the most bang for the buck. that being said ive been using novus injectors for 3 years now and as i said they are very capable of incredible repairs. as far as the performance goes my biggest problem is that they never seem to pull ENOUGH vacuum. repairs i make with the plastic injectors seemes to always take longer. so in order to compensate when i need to pull a heavier vacuum ill "break" the pressure cycle. i bring the piston down then break the seal by pulling up slightly with the injector. that seems to give me greater vacuum when i unscrew the injector. Also realize that for the 5 years before i started using plastic injectors i always used pump style allowing full control over vac and pressure. i also have yet to do an adequate vertical repair with one. is there a way of doing vertical with a novus injector in a standard single cup, dual leveling screw bridge??

the other issue i run into (which is admittedly mostly my own fault) is that because they are made of a relitively soft polymer it's very easy to cross thread them in a metal bridge and ruin the threads. these are franchise style disposable injectors. if i remember correctly they cost $10.00 or so each. i will also state i personally own 4 different style units. one is a novus injector with single cup bridge, one is a delta kits system, one is a mightyvac aluminum injector system and one is (believe it or not) a clear star. my clear star kit has done some of my best work and i still feel it's only one step above a do it yourself kit.

i just feel you can't really compare a set of stainless steel dinnerware to a plastic spork. while both will get you fed the higher quality will last longer. no offence intended screenman. i will tell you this you definately have more experience then my 8 years in the field so i digress to your professional oppinion. please reply about the vertical repairs though.