To Engineer (Alan)

[GlasWeldTech]

Alan,
First let me tell you MOST of the time we all get along here. We DO NOT always agree with something and at times others come across very strong on their opinion. This is a good forum with lots of good techs and lots of new techs. I try to go out and learn something new everyday. I may repair a break completely different than say Brent or SGT. However, we all are HOPEFULLY getting the same results and that is a solid structural repair and happy customers.

We also very few times get into a mine is better than yours. Kind of like Biden vs. Palin or Chevy vs. Ford or Gold WIng vs. Harley. GlasWeldTEch vs.SGT (JUST KIDDING BRIAN). Most of the time we all get along and at times some are rubbed the wrong way.

Lots of good information here in the archives if one would do a little reading and searching as most topics have ben discussed many ways in the past.My biggest pet peeve and I know some others that feel this way is. Someone new will come on here and just start asking away WITHOUT filling out their profile to give us VETS some info about themselves. Give us respect and we wil chime in.

I do not post a whole lot due to using a DIFFERENT BRAND of tooling unless the poster is asking about the brand I use. Is my brand better than brand B or C or D? AM I Biased? I feel I could probably do a good repair with brand B,C,or D after I played with it awhile. Is my Brand or Delta's Brand the only way to do a good repair? Nope.

In the real world you will need to be able to overcome lots of variables you cannot control, rain,heat,direct sunlight,unstable breaks,rain x,fatigue,stress,etc. You have to be able to sell yourself and your product. I try faithfully to never knock my competition here in town as they know what their repairs are worth. You will meet some great people in this venture and others you will hope you never have to repair a break for. That is life.

So, do not be afraid to ask questions and certainly do not let your FIRST POST be the end to this vast database of knowledge that is available to yourself and other new techs. Take pride in your company and equipment and carry yourself proffessionaly and keep your vehicle clean and tasteful and you will make it.Learn how to dry out moisture in breaks,deal with heat and you can do it. Never give up and get proper training on whatever tooling you decide to go with.

Now for Brent.I am sorry my tooling company chose to do what they did. We have had our differences but hey we still respect each other. I do see where you are coming from and my hands are tied also as I made my choice on tooling, but you know I very seldom give any advise unless someone chooses the same brand I have that is why my post count is so low. You do have a good resin and I am sure your tooling is also right up there.

With that being said I think any good Tech could do a great repair with any tooling while lesser techs will not do a good repair with any tooling as we have all seen bad repairs out in the field and have wondered how and why techs do this as it will hurt us all in the long run.
GlasWeldTech

[SGT]

Alan,
First let me tell you MOST of the time we all get along here. We DO NOT always agree with something and at times others come across very strong on their opinion. This is a good forum with lots of good techs and lots of new techs. I try to go out and learn something new everyday. I may repair a break completely different than say Brent or SGT. However, we all are HOPEFULLY getting the same results and that is a solid structural repair and happy customers.

We also very few times get into a mine is better than yours. Kind of like Biden vs. Palin or Chevy vs. Ford or Gold WIng vs. Harley. GlasWeldTEch vs.SGT (JUST KIDDING BRIAN). Most of the time we all get along and at times some are rubbed the wrong way.

Lots of good information here in the archives if one would do a little reading and searching as most topics have ben discussed many ways in the past.My biggest pet peeve and I know some others that feel this way is. Someone new will come on here and just start asking away WITHOUT filling out their profile to give us VETS some info about themselves. Give us respect and we wil chime in.

I do not post a whole lot due to using a DIFFERENT BRAND of tooling unless the poster is asking about the brand I use. Is my brand better than brand B or C or D? AM I Biased? I feel I could probably do a good repair with brand B,C,or D after I played with it awhile. Is my Brand or Delta's Brand the only way to do a good repair? Nope.

In the real world you will need to be able to overcome lots of variables you cannot control, rain,heat,direct sunlight,unstable breaks,rain x,fatigue,stress,etc. You have to be able to sell yourself and your product. I try faithfully to never knock my competition here in town as they know what their repairs are worth. You will meet some great people in this venture and others you will hope you never have to repair a break for. That is life.

So, do not be afraid to ask questions and certainly do not let your FIRST POST be the end to this vast database of knowledge that is available to yourself and other new techs. Take pride in your company and equipment and carry yourself proffessionaly and keep your vehicle clean and tasteful and you will make it.Learn how to dry out moisture in breaks,deal with heat and you can do it. Never give up and get proper training on whatever tooling you decide to go with.

Now for Brent.I am sorry my tooling company chose to do what they did. We have had our differences but hey we still respect each other. I do see where you are coming from and my hands are tied also as I made my choice on tooling, but you know I very seldom give any advise unless someone chooses the same brand I have that is why my post count is so low. You do have a good resin and I am sure your tooling is also right up there.

With that being said I think any good Tech could do a great repair with any tooling while lesser techs will not do a good repair with any tooling as we have all seen bad repairs out in the field and have wondered how and why techs do this as it will hurt us all in the long run.
GlasWeldTech

Bravo Eddie! Spot on.:eusa_clap Oh I perferr the "Mine is bigger than yours" analogy though.

[Glasseye]

As Brent has closed the original thread concerning this issue I would just like to add my support for this Forum and inparticular Brent. Glasweld's use of negative marketing does not help this industry whatsoever. If they are so committed to furthering quality, they should realise it lies through co-operation not competition. They belittle us and themselves through this strategy. I will continue to read and, where I can, offer my advice to anyone and all on this forum. Even though it is a dedicated company forum it has always offered the reader an impartial approach to all systems used in this business.

[mrchip]

very good post Eddie....this forum has been invaluable to me in countless ways..and I also have great respect for Brent and a sometimes difficult job he has...but the good this forum provides far exceeds the negative..and I also agree that filling out a profile is important to me also...I wont answer some of these threads for that reason..have a great day

[GlassStarz]

It is important to know I am the only one here that knows anything and my way is the only right way.

[GlassStarz]

its not much different than how auto mfgs compare each other use out of context stuff and only compare what makes you look good marketing 101 doesnt mean its right just buisness
All of us in the buisness know when you remove the injector and place another one on you are gonna get some air and if you havnt left the injector on long enough the first time leaving noticible air in the break you will be able to show it.

[GlassStarz]

I have never liked em much and dont buy anything from them they sent my son a bunch of samples in unmarked bottles he had no clue what was in each kinda dumb huh?

[GlasWeldTech]

The forum over there is still up. I have never known them to send out samples in unmarked bottles.

When the NEW BODY STYLE TOYOTA TUNDRA came out. Toyota bought 2 car hauler trailers and put a Ford F150 on one and a Chevrolet 1500 on the other one. These they pulled up and down the Interstates here for about a month. They had nice looking signs made for each respective trailer.Both trailers were pulled by one of the NEW Full size Tundras.The signs said: We figured out how to make a Ford faster and it was pulled all around by the new Tundra. The other said: We finally figured out how to make a Chevy faster and it was also pulled by a color matched New Tundra. It caused quite a stir over here among the dealers.

Was this right or Ethical?

Seems I have seen an add about a company taking trade ins on other companies injectors and equipment? Didn't they show pictures or mention names about their competition? It is used (this type of hype or ads) daily in the media for all kinds of items. Marketing.

It seems what this business really needs is an OPEN and Un-Biased forum where any brand could be discussed. We used to have one long ago and I guess it got out of hand. Some of us will remember it from long ago. It seemed to attract all kinds of discussions. Even other topics not pertaining to WSR and it could be why it no longer exists.

At times one can sit back and read some of the posts here and they are just comical. We may not have to worry to much about the future of WSR if our economy doesn't take a turn for the better as I doubt people will repair if money gets much tighter.I am seeing dealers pass on some work now. They only are wanting to do what is absolutely required to sell the used car.

In my area people are trying hard to keep any money they have. Seems every election year it gets this way. This has been the roughest election year I have seen since we have been in business. Hopefully it will pick up after election as tax season is coming.

Back to the my brand is better than your brand. This will always be around. It seems like we as grown men use the internet as a grounds for public debate. I have asked myself when does so and so ever work as he is always on this forum. I have made what I call some great friends here. SGT and Coister come to mind and there are others. We speak on the phone at times and a group of about 10 of us had our own little forum or chat page awhile back. Membership has it's privaledges.The key players in our business would be what I call GlasWeld,Delta,GlassMechanix,and GT. In no particular order. Now I am sure I will be FLAMED because I didn't include Joe's New State of the art SGT Polymer CA Injector (no pun intended Brian). I believe Brian could do a much better repair than I could if we both used his brand of tooling. (for awhile)hehe. I think I could do a better repair than Brian could using my tooling (for awhile).The key is proper training with whatever brand tooling you decide, to get EDUCATED.

I could TRY and get Delta to send me a T-100 injector and GlasWeld to send me a new G3 injector and Jeff to send me one of his and report back to this forum my findings. Would this be fair? Would you believe my findings? Some would and some wouldn't. If one will do some research and testing they will find what is the right company for them to go with.

It is just the American way I guess to be competitive. I have ranted long enough and have to go out into the real world now and do some repairs.

I am thick skinned and I know some will disagree with this post. I could tell you it is RAINING here and it really could be and there would be someone somewhere that would tell me it is not.

In a perfect would we would always agree and get along. Could you imagine if we all drove red chevy trucks? The idea is not to give the new techs false hope and do not tell them anything that you are not quite sure about.

[Brent Deines]

There is a difference between saying your product is better than your competitor's product, which is an opinion, and publishing outright lies disguised as facts. I could make a video featuring any system on the market and make it look completely ineffective, and so could any of you. If your intention is to do a poor repair there is no system on the market that will stop you from doing so.

I've worked very hard to build the reputation of Delta Kits and have "real" videos that prove the GlasWeld claims are false. I also put my system on the line by allowing customers to watch real time repairs at every trade show we attend, and in every training class we hold, and I'll be darned if I'm going to let anyone tarnish that reputation with lies.

I sent a list of all the inaccurate statement to the ROLAGS committee, not because of the GlasWeld attack on Delta Kits, but because of the statement "Displacement does not sufficiently remove air from the break.

[GlasWeldTech]

Brent,
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