Under trained! Any help?

[jackson glass-tech]

I have been doing wr for about 9 months with only on-the-job training and feel that I know minimal techniques! I am thinking of making the venture into a part time business for myself wthile in school! Let me make one thing clear I work for a carwash that also does wr and though i strive to do the best job possible I have not been well trained and have even developed some of my own techniques. There is such a wealth of knowledge provided by you guys on this forum! And I would love to attend a training school such as the one delta provides but seeing as how my budget is very tight, I was wondering if someone could point me in the right direction for trainind dvd's with techniques that I can practice at my current job! Many points of view would be nice! Or even more explanation on how to use some of delta's new tools i.e. the slide hammer! And not the one's on youtube that I am seeing criticized
Thanks alot

[Frank EU]

Being on a tight budget should not be a reason for not being trained properly. Would you trust your own vehicle to a vendor without any proper training? Would you have your car washed at a high risk location? In all fairness; I doubt it. No matter the level of information on this board, and no matter how willing fellow members are and will be, nothing will beat the real hands on thing. Get yourself a ticket and go to Eugene, like Brent mentioned before, there are some pretty good flight deals around.

[SGT]

Jackson Glass-Tech,

While I concur with Frank EU that factory training is your best option and learning on a customers vehicle is negligent to say the least. I undestand though that sometimes for whatever reason it is just not possible for all to aquire factory training. So what can you do in that situation? Well, I would see if you can find someone in your area that uses the Delta Equipment according to there perscribed methods and is competitant. That may be hard though. Ask Delta Kits if they know of someone in your area. Learning bad habits from someone or other MFG's techniques and then adapting them to the Delta tooling will only lead to failure. If you have to go the DVD route, I suggest using the DVD for the Delta System. It is put together well, easy to follow and you can always call Delta for support. Then get a piece of practice glass and practice till you are very comfortable in the process.

As for the slide hammer, well I have always been partial to a sewing needle and suction cup remover as a tapper until I had an opportunity to use the slide hammer this past week at the WRO. Brilliant simple to use tool. Drill as normal 2/3 through the outter pane, insert tool pull back on the brass mangnetic weighted slide and let drop. Wallah, perfect anchor(bullseye)! It can also doule as a scribe. Bonus feature, no more slapping your fingers when you miss the needles.

Your desire to learn is commended, following through with your desire will help provide you the success you seek.

[jackson glass-tech]

Thanks guys! I really didn't think I was undertrained until I started reading this forum! But there could possibly be a chance that my boss would be willing to send me to a training course and I am going to approach him with that. After all it would help his business too!

[David T]

Jackson,

I can relate to your situation. The thing is that there is almost no substitute for the education you get when it comes directly from experienced instructors that represent the company selling WSR equipment.

After doing a fair amount of research on the variety of products being sold and having conversations with a few generous WSR techs in the Gulf Coast region, I chose to attended a Delta Kits training class. After getting my hands on the equipment and seeing how well designed and crafted everything was (and getting some practice doing repairs), I can't begin to emphasize how valuable this experience was. This class also seemed to be very beneficial for an "experienced" tech that realized half way through the class, that he wasn't making good repairs as a result of having used improper techniques acquired from being "self taught".

I don't know when the next Delta Kits training class is scheudled (it is on their website), but I do know that the classes held in Eugene, Oregon are free (I'm not sure about the details, but there was some discussion about the possibility of a fee for classes starting next year).

Considering the cost of the class (or lack there of), flying to Portland via Southwest (round trip for $150), a cheap rental car and a night in a cheap hotel, the entire "educational" experience cost me less than $350. IMHO, I don't think that was too much of an investment to acquire the skills that put me in a position to make $50/hour.

Hope this info helps,
David T

[GlassStarz]

Couple things to remember that will give instant results
assuming you have the injector over the chip and I hope you know how to center it if you can look at it from the inside the hole is over the chip.
Once you put the pressure on give it time it may look done but wait longer better results will come from releasing the pressure then applying again a couple times. time cures most problems. training is important but time and practice can do the same thing pretty much ever problem you can come across can be found here on this site with a little research you still cant figure something out call the guys at delta they will answer anthing you may come up with

[ChipStop]

I too am in Jackson area and probably know where you work. I would be willing to sit down with you and talk about this. I am always looking for a few good techs.

Mark Howie

[blovstad]

As Soon as I get the extra money I'm heading for training!! I did my first practice job on a relatives car and struck out. I would say it was little star break, about the size of a dime. It looked a little better when done, but not muh better.

[Windshield Doc]

I am from jackson also and would be willing to help you.