harrellbenjamin wrote:Any good outdoor urethane based spar varnish will work well.Try a few and see which you prefer.Even the Dvelup labeled product will turn amber after a few weeks of use in the can.I have lens that are Dvelup brand sealer in the area that I see frequently(friends-family) and also the off the shelf formula talked about here and both look the same after 2 plus years in a high UV environment.With the help of a good family friend that is an Industrial chemist in the coatings industry he verified my suspensions as to the make up of several popular brands of lens sealer.So I base my knowledge of the makes ups of these products on solid facts.Out of respect for Brent we will leave at that.Let me also state the Dvelup has the best headlight system on the market for the money and I would highly recommend any one entering this market to start with it and the proper equipment.After doing 100's of sets of lens you will come to a point where you will be able to read the lens.In other words some sets will respond to different things and you will be able to save some time.Some you will have to treat aggressively with yellow-x(or good pre cleaner) before starting.Some not.Some you will have to start with a very aggressive grade of sandpaper(3m HOOKIT SANDPAPER is excellent for and recommended for plastic).Some will only require a finer grade to start etc.I usually find that on moderate lens I use 400 or 600 (again experience will tell you) then 1000 to 1500 then 2000.I have a very good air sanding system 3" that makes it fast and simple.I also have a good compound (3M) that I finish off buffing the lens with also using a 3" air sander /polisher.Re-clean with yellow-x and then I final wipe with 90% rubbing alcohal to make sure my lens are contamination free.An extra step but will keep you out of trouble.The only reason anyone would use a finer finish grade of paper other than 2000 is because they were not sealing(see 3ms system)The sealer will fill any sanding from 1500-2000 grit.The lens are polycarbonate(same as bullet proof glass)and is very porous .It just fills and protects the surface.Its also like a sponge to the environment for contaminants so this is why sealing with a high quality sealer is a must.Dvelup makes it fool proof too.
Ben,
Your Chemist friend may be right about "some" popular brands of lens sealers being similar to hardware store products, but I can assure you that is not always the case, so to say that any good outdoor urethane based spar varnished is as good as the best lens coatings is simply not true. If you care to call me to discuss this matter in depth please feel free to do so, but this is the last time I am going to say this.
If you and others want to use products that are not formulated specifically for the task at hand that is your business, but this is not the place to promote that practice as I do not believe it is in the best interest of the consumer or the headlight restoration industry as a whole. I don't know how to make it clearer than that.
When this thread was started it was to exchange information and techniques for restoring headlight lens.Not an endorsement for a particular Brand or system.If you read back it even got you interested in the systems out there.Just info being exchanged by techs in the field.Looks like this has changed so I will respect your wishes...........................
harrellbenjamin wrote:When this thread was started it was to exchange information and techniques for restoring headlight lens.Not an endorsement for a particular Brand or system.If you read back it even got you interested in the systems out there.Just info being exchanged by techs in the field.Looks like this has changed so I will respect your wishes...........................
I agree with Ben on this one. The premise behind an open forum is to exchange ideas between the guys and gals who are out in the trenches everyday working with the products. If we find something that works and we think it can helps others, we post our findings for others to evaluate.
I agree with ben its to help others with diffrent tools and new tricks the same as with wsr.
But Deta Kits sells Delta products for wsr I respect that.We should helps others with tricks useing the Delta products.
I dont see where Delta Kits sells Dvelup products unless i missed the page some where.
So every one has a problem and need some kind of help to make a near perfect fix it could be too cold, hot wet, or working to slow,too fast.not enought time spent on that job.
To me i just use what works for me what works for me might not work for you.
I know for a fact that some guys here use Delta tools but diffrent brands of resin Delta can help with the tools but not the off brands of resin or other brand wsr tools.The same goes with H/LR but Delta sells no H/LR products that i know of correct me if Im wrong.
Delta Kits Inc. does sell a professional Headlight Restoration System. We are in the process of updating our website with the information on our Headlight Restoration System, but in the mean time if anyone has any questions or concerns please email, PM me, or call into Delta Kits.
As Korey said, we do sell headlight restoration products, but we have not tried to push our brand or our products on this forum. We also do not push our windshield repair products on the windshield repair forum, but we do step in when we believe misinformation or information that is harmful to the industry is being presented.
This is a Delta Kits website, and if you read the forum guidelines you will see that we reserve the right to edit or eliminate anything we do not feel is in the best interest of the general membership. For the most part those who post on the windshield repair forum understand that this is a Delta Kits moderated forum and respect the fact, but it seems that respect is not present on the headlight restoration forum. I considered shutting it down as I have no intention of wasting all my time debating how this forum should be run.
If you don't like the way this forum is being run, find one that is run better or start your own. Otherwise, learn to live within the rules and respect that fact that we put a lot of time and energy into offering this forum to all of you, and we will do whatever we believe is necessary to continue to make it a success.
We have gotten way off track here which does not help anyone. This topic is now closed!
