Rain X treated windshields

[screenman]

JT I know I ask a lot of questions but how can the resin come out when we do a vacuum cycle, this seems to go against reasoning. I can understand the resin not getting a bond though if an excess of Rainx had been injected into the damage. How do you guys tell the Rainx has been put into the damage? How many people over there use it? Is it even possible that Rainx is often not the problem behind a poor repair.

[Frank EU]

Screenman; I have been involved in the distribution and production of products like RainX, polish etc., many car washes in the USA use RainX or like products as a standard in their (roll over) car wash system. So, in many car washes you are getting a 'nice' RainX treatment.

[screenman]

Thanks for that, I wonder why it has not got going over here as well.

[Frank EU]

Screenman, there could be a marketing reason for that. As we all know, the RainX products are all pretty expensive. They may not want to dilute their brand experience over here in Europe >by mixing the product into the cleansing agent used in car washes. Or, and this I do not know, they are not doing business with their product line with car washes. All I know, and that is for sure because it used to be my brand over here, that their ''owner'' (a USA company) stopped doing business here. They also used to have an office in the UK (Saffron Walden -Essex), but that office has been closed as well.

BTW; ANY cleansing agent in any car wash contains a wax, and wax is as bad as RainX. It is worse if people are opting for the ''extra'' wax program.

[screenman]

Very good point about the wax.

[Chips be-gone]

Screenman

You asked the wrong person about how resin comes out under a Vac cycle.
It's OK though.
I had a customer use rain-X on their car and then called me to fix the chip. this is the first time I encountered rain_X my self while repairing a windshield. I was doing my repair and when I was going from pressure to vac I pulled all the resin that I just injected right back out of the break. I had the break filled totally and was just going to vac to makes sure no more air was in the break and it looked like I did not even done a thing.. I ask the customer what they done to the windshield and they said they used rain-X the weekend before and the chip was there for a few weeks before.
Not sure how rain-X worked I asked what they did to apply it, and she said the rubbed it in all over the glass like polishing a car. It must of soaked into the break and nothing sticks to it.

I will do a test by run running my hand over the glass now days to see if anything is on it. Customers are shocked I am able to tell if it has rain-X or any other treatment. It just feels polished is all, then I ask when they applied it so I know what I am up against.


I am shocked you guy do not have it in the UK with all the rain you receive. Maybe they do not have a patent in that country to cover there butts for protecting their product.

[Frank EU]

Chips-be-gone.....RainX provides ''how to use directions'' on their bottles. As always, wit any ''how to use directions'', many (if not most) people are just NOT reading. Or they read, and just do not follow up on what they were reading as to how to use a product. It is a fact that many people do not apply products like RainX as they actually should. Instead, they drop the fluid direct onto the glass surface >instead like they are adviced....on a lint free cloth or tissue. Using the cloth or tissue will result in an evenly distributed over the surface product. When they instead ''drop'' the product direct onto the glass several things happen; 1-the product will start running and may run into the damage (capilair action will do the rest) 2-as they were wetting the surface too much, they are rubbing the product right into the damages (again, the capilar action will do the rest) 3-people will use way more of the product, the manufacturer does not care at all and won't complain.

[Frank EU]

And oops, RainX is a well know and widely available product in Europe (and that includes the UK). And no, we (in the EU) do not like it all that much, it is too costly, not many people like polishing action jobs and, last but not least, in certain areas in Europe, we are NOT allowed to diy wash our own vehicles! It really is a shame and scam. Instead, motorists are directed to a car wash. We may blame our ''left wing'' environmental freak friends for that silly law but that is a different thing all together and off-topic.

[Brent Deines]

I was introduced to Rain-X about the same time I got into windshield repair in 1987. So far never a failed repair that can be attributed to it's use. I also have never had any resin come out of a break in the vacuum cycle on a windshield treated with Rain-X. That really doesn't make sense to me, but I suppose it could be an equipment or technique specific issue. For me it is a non-issue except for removing it from the surface, which in our tests has not been effectively accomplished by using resin alone. Cerium Oxide or 0000 steel wool is my preference for removing from the surface.

I used to use Rain-X myself but found that as it starts to wear off the glass looks smeared, especially when it rains. I'm too lazy to apply it every couple of months, which is what I found you need to do to keep it working well, at least here in the NW.

[Chips be-gone]

Brent

Why is it every thing that does not sound right by your terms tend to be ether the equipment or training?

What would you say if someone had your system and resin and was trained by you personally. Would this make your system, resin and training inferior?

Now, I will say I do not use your system, resin or was not trained by you at all. I have been well trained and not by a video. So does this make me a bad tech with a bad system?

I have been at this to long with one of the top systems and resins and training also. Seems just because you have not encountered this in your time does not mean it has not been done....

Here is your homework assignment again if you do not mind.
Take the rain-X and apply it like Frank said as a bad application by letting it drop in a break, let it dry for some time by aging it for a week. Now proceed to do your repair.
We will then see what you have to say about rain-X.

Sorry but you hit a nerve thinking you and your system is by far better than others on the market. Yes there are far worst systems out there but you are always knocking everyone or their system they use...

I know it is your site again