locking my post about making resin

[stihlcarven]

Just a question for Brent. Do you use 1 resin for chips and cracks? Im in Colorado and the weather here is from 17-100 ferenhiet. All seasons combined. Can you recommend 1 resin that will work in all seasons? Also, when I repair long cracks as long as 24"'s I have a flat bar that attaches to my tool and I use it to guide the injector along the crack while I flex it with my hand from the inside of the car. During this process I use a thin resin. I am able to glide the injector by applying low viscosity grease in a path along side the crack where the suction cup/cups of my tool glide along. At the impact point and the end of the crack(actualy at the origin of the crack as I drill to stop the break at the end and work backwards)I switch to a thicker resin. If you feel strongly that Delta has one resign for all, I'd sure like to try it. Im used to about 4 different resigns at any given time. I know some will feel driven to comment on the length of repairs Im talking about but in 3 years of working repairs for another company I have never had a failed repair.I have done them as long as 3 feet long in this manner. I strive to make any repair as invisible as possible...this is going to be my first experience with Delta tools and id like to squash any learning curve if I gather as much info as I can. The kit I have been using was a geat kit however I had to give it back when I quit the company I worked for.Sorry Im so long winded all the time. Thanks.

[Brent Deines]

I use MagniBond for all chips and cracks. I started repairing windshields in Billings Montana where the temperature range is very similar to yours and never found the need for different viscosities. I did try various different viscosities and methods for long crack repair, but I just never could see a difference except the cost was higher and it took me longer.

We don't use the sliding bridge method as in my experience that process often traps air in the break. If you bought the B300 you will not be able slide the bridge so if you stick with that method give us a call to discuss other bridge options. I also rarely find it necessary to flex the glass from either the inside or the outside of the vehicle during a long crack repair, but again, I use an entirely different method.

I'm not a huge advocate of 3' long crack repair, but depending on where they are at on the windshield I have been known to let a customer talk me into them, and have been successful "almost" all of the time. I've been doing this for 23 years so I'm afraid I can't say I have "always" been successful, but the crack outs I have experienced have happened while I was working on the break, not after complete, so I am very confident that the resin will hold if the break is properly filled and cured. If you want to try MagniBond for long cracks I suggest that you make a couple of similar cracks on a practice shield and fill one with MagniBond and the other with the resins you are used to using. Use the same method of filling for both so you can compare the results side by side. If you like the MagniBond give our method of long crack filling a try on a practice shield side by side with the sliding method.

How you are trained and how much you have practiced has a lot to do with how well your repairs turn out, so you may or may not like the Delta Kits method for filling long cracks. With your impressive record of no crack outs ever you don't need my help. It's when I hear people complaining about the quality of their repairs or problems they have filling a break that I encourage them to try a different technique and/or different products.

If you are going to use a Delta Kits bridge I am absolutely convinced you will get your best results by using Delta Kits techniques, which will require a change in thinking, or at the very least an open mind. By the same token, if you are using a competitor's bridge you should probably stick with the method they teach rather than listen to me. It would be foolish to get training on Delta Kits equipment from a Delta Kits competitor or vice versa.

[just chippen away]

when I repair long cracks as long as 24"'s I have a flat bar that attaches to my tool and I use it to guide the injector along the crack while I flex it with my hand from the inside of the car.

Instead of flexing the crack, why don't you just invest in crackjacks and line them up? Every time you flex the crack you can end up with air in the crack...

Let me ask you, How long have you been doing repairs and doing long cracks.... ?

[stihlcarven]

I haven't been repairing all that long. I have about 3 years experience. Which I know is a big factor of why I have no crack outs to date. That along with the training I recieved from some amazing repair professionals who let me use an extensive ,well built system.Long cracks are not all that common...I have maybe 50 under my belt in that time....lots of short cracks and chips. I was making great money for the company I worked for and made ok money for myself. When I split its needless to say that the idea of added competition in their town made for an unstable relationship.So I moved way south on the outskirts of what Id call "thier area". Some might ask why I'd do that....I can't feel good about causing a riff and bad blood with the folks who took a month to train me 1 on 1, trusted me with thier patented tools,supplied me with everything at no cost to me, set me up in an amazing site, treated me like a family member. I just know that I can and should move on and try to better things for my family. I would buy a kit from them but its nearly 3 times as much cost as almost any kit I've seen. I have spent the last 3 months researching kits, and companys. I'm not trying to kiss arse but Delta stands out above any others in customer service, customer relations, product knowledge, business knowledge, and probably most important to me??they never once bad mouthed any one elses kit, business, ethics, standards, or principles....2/3rds of the others I talked to crap talked each other relentlessly..and I have talked to or communicated in one way or another with them all. There is another fella I talked to on the phone who sells tools and I want try one with my kit because it looked like a great simple repair tool....I love simple.Until my Delta kit gets here, I'll be posting alot because Im chomping at the bit to get going...Im long winded....sorry bout that.

[just chippen away]

You are going to leave a place that treated you like family, took you under there wing, made you good money most likely, let you use their tools, and most likely if asked for more money would give it to you. You took the golden spoon out of your mouth.
Most leave there place because they are treated like sh!t. I can tell this will be fun reading up on you.

The system you are talking about is a one of a kind. "A chick and a windshield" (GOLD colored tools). Sorry we can not list names. If I am reading you right this is what you are using.

You can not compare apples to apples. You are saying their kit cost to much..... If you did get trained using this system and you are branching off on your own, the company would be willing to sell you a system at a better price. maybe one of there demo units. It will suck that you will be competing against them in the same town. Now you are going to have to make the investment and reprove your self that you can do the same with another totally different system.

If you think that the tools you have been using is the best you ever used, then it is worth the money. Do not expect the same results with every system....

Just because one does not not down another name does not mean they are the best. That is just good selling. One may be telling you why the others are not as good, but do not know how to say it with out making it sound bad.. There may be a reason the other system is not as good for some reason or another based on the way it is used as to another.

I am not promoting ANY system at all.

I will not be surprised if you do end up buying the system you are accustomed to using to get the same results.

[stihlcarven]

I'm not saying the kit I am accustomed to costs to much...I am saying that even at a discount I can't afford it.For someone who says you are not supposed to use names you sure name dropped in the sentence before that statement. I don't need to rely on any particular tool to get a job done. In fact I'm quite sure that I can obtain a superior result using a plastic molded injector and some good resin. I'm not confirming or denying knowing the company you mentioned. I truly will not name drop. As far as taking the golden spoon from my own mouth? That is an employee attitude, and thats ok. There are more employees in the world than employers. I am one of several windshield repair companies in my area. I am among the best of them anywhere.I take pride in what I do and have at least a short proven track record of success.I am exactly the type of person who should start off on his own, as I incorporate skill,technique,ethics,combined with a desire to advance my situation for a greater cause(family).I am not the type of tech, who after a repair, needs to tell my customer that the black spots still in the chip are normal and theres nothing that can be done about it,I also need to never explain that they are returning with a failed repair cause the windshield was too badly damaged and I did the best I could.Nor will I ever be the guy with a pop up tent, a cardboard sign, and a $250 kit fixing chips outside a carwash on wet windshields for $20 a pop.I have a fire in me that drives my soul to succeed. It stems from an event in my life that I had to overcome or die.So you think it will be fun reading up on me??? You bet..btw...that name you dropped in your last post should be removed...whether or not I know them or dont is irrelevant,,,your last statement says that you dont endorse any kit...however you claim their kit is one of a kind then drop a name.Hey, whatever happens do keep reading up on me...this is going to be a cool ride.

[Brent Deines]

Only a few (very few) companies are not allowed to be discussed on this forum, and that is by request of the manufacturers or if they refuse to follow windshieldrepairforum.com guidelines. I simply honor their requests.

Since this topic no longer has anything to do with the title I would ask that you start a new topic with an appropriate title if you wish to continue this discussion. We can then move all related posts to that topic so that forum members who are interested can find and follow the topic easier.

Thanks.

[GlassStarz]

Using a Quality resin costs about 50 cents a repair

[Eco Steam]

There's ABSOLUTELY no reason y'all need to get hostile towards each other. This Forum is here to help, guide, direct, and share your repair stories. Lets keep it that way.....

ALSO....

I won't be the first to defend those Repair Techs that do Professional Repairs under a Canopy on a street corner.

2 Years ago I would have told you HECK NO! You will never see me out there doing that.....well I have been eating my words ever since, and they're pretty freaking yummy!!

I DON'T charge as low as $20, but I charge what I feel my time and service is worth for a Customer to come to me, in addition to many Insurance jobs that I get paid full price for.....

I get to come out and advertise my business to THOUSANDS of POTENTIAL CUSTOMERS!!!

Sitting on my booty at home waiting for calls or emails ain't putting food on the table nor is it paying my bills......

ATX
JJ

[bill lambeth]

I agree with you ATX.There is nothing wrong with the guy that sets under a tent.We all have to do what makes us comfortable and feed your family.I wish that I had the patients to set under one of those tents.I like to be moving around and talking with people.