What Kit to get? so many on the market.

Post your windshield repair tips, questions, advice! Note there is a sub-forum specifically for business development questions.
just chippen away
Member
Posts: 450
Joined: November 15th, 2009, 12:08 pm
Enter the middle number please (3): 3

Re: What Kit to get? so many on the market.

Post by just chippen away »

screenman wrote:Does that mean you need to buy 2 different tools? whilst I seem to have no problem with just 1. Perhaps you can tell me because GT seem not to want to, why does the spectrum injector need to be so big? As for the resonator is that the blue plastic thing with a 2 or 3 seals and springs and other assorted parts, I have one of those in my box of bits that I do not use.

Graham, I will be more than happy to tell you....
[ 1 ] I do not need to have two different tools, The Spectrum does do vert. repairs with an adapter.... I have it I tried it. P.I.T.A. (pain in the a$$).
I like the LR Resonator for doing long cracks because I can fill the injector tube ( it holds about 9 drops) less stop and filling. I do not use the bridge that came with it, I use their other alum bridge instead. I can fill a 36" crack with out any air pockets if prep right.... It is how you use it...

[ 2 ] I have the 3 GT Spectrum's, 3 LR Resonators, and 2 Delta I-100's and 1 older brass looking Delta injector...

The thing I have found with the Spectrum is it will pull a vac of 15 Inch of Merc., (that is why it has such a tall cylinder),,, The LQ Resinator pulls 3.5 inch of mercy,,, and the Delta pulls 1.5 inch of merc... I did check this this morning to double check my info. I did this with no resin in any of the injectors using a standard vac gauge removed from a break bleeder rolling an air tight seal over the injector bottom that seals to the glass... That is as high tech as I can get without buying test equipment just to show myself what they do...
Graham,I have told you this a while back as we were talking on another forum.

[ 3 ] Using the LQ injectors, I do not have to replace the two seals you are talking about only once a yr only as a yearly once over maintenance to all my Equipment.

Side note.... I do keep trying to find a way to like the delta using it on fleet only, I just can not be won over with it... The one thing I do hate is that it needs the spring cleaned so if resin gets in the piston / spring area it will not cure... Clean by air can or denature.... as to the GT roll a corner of a Scott shop towel and clean were the side chamber is and the small o'ring... and the LR also, drop them in Denature and clean them before putting it away. (remember, I only use it for Vert and Cracks)

I hope I did not affend anyone over this post as Screenman did ask for my input...
Each system operates differantly by the manufactors... Presure - Vac verses Vac - Presure. Differance on operation needs.

I am not opening any can of worms. To each is own for systems.
Just Chippen Away
User avatar
Brent Deines
Moderator
Posts: 2452
Joined: September 24th, 2003, 7:54 am
Enter the middle number please (3): 5
Location: Eugene, OR
Contact:

Re: What Kit to get? so many on the market.

Post by Brent Deines »

Jimmy Prince wrote:I think that online training is a great way to go!!! unless the dvd that comes with most kits covers the training really well. I have watched the guy fix my wifes windshield and he used the glasweld system and it worked great and in no time at all!!!! They have great online training and a solid reputation. on the other hand, it seems that delta has Better customer care and is willing to help a new guy in the business. Does anyone now how there training DVD is frp Delta? could one learn from it and start doing repairs? like i said its down to two. does glasweld have a money back warranty? and how long is deltas money back warranty? I will get one kit or another in the next week. ;)

I didn't realize you had already attended the GW online training, but since you apparently have and thought it was great there's not much more to be said about that. The majority of Delta Kits customers still learn to repair windshields by video and most of them find it very easy to pick up, however there are some folks who need the hands on training. Oddly enough it is those who have been trained on other systems or have learned on their own who struggle the most with our equipment. Newbies seem to get better results right off the bat. Kind of like my golf game. Had I had lessons from the start it would be much easier to teach me than trying to break all of the bad habits I have developed over the years! Our training video teaches the basics but we also offer a number of supplemental videos free of charge.

I can't speak for the others but Delta Kits offers a 30 day money back guarantee. Try it for 30 days and if you are not convinced it it the right system for you, return it for a full, no hassle, refund. You are responsible for the shipping charges but if you charge a customer for one repair during the 30 days that more than covers it. I would expect any other reputable manufacturer to offer something similar but we've all heard the horror stories so read the fine print and ask lots of questions before you buy.

Some people like Fords and some like Chevys, the same is true with windshield repair systems. There is no better way to compare systems than to use them side by side in my opinion.
Brent Deines
Delta Kits, Inc.
Image
User avatar
Mr Bill
Senior Member
Posts: 523
Joined: February 9th, 2005, 6:15 pm
Enter the middle number please (3): 5
Location: Santa Cruz CA

Re: What Kit to get? so many on the market.

Post by Mr Bill »

Deltakits has many informational videos on their home page.
I went to Eugene and took the training. Now I have all the free tech support I need.
I clean my tools after each use. I prefer using a clean dry injector to begin each repair.
Jimmy Prince

Re: What Kit to get? so many on the market.

Post by Jimmy Prince »

"I didn't realize you had already attended the GW online training"

I didnt do anything online yet. I said it was a good idea to have online training. You misunderstood me sorry. I didnt like there web site. The kits didnt give details like yours. But in the GW video they kinda said your system is old while theres is state of the art. I didnt like that also. But i do like th fact that you seem to be a honest guy. and your willing to give me my money back if i dont like it. Kinda like a i cant lose thing. I put a ad on craigslist for windshield repair Just to test the waters here. if i get just one bite i will be getting set up real soon. Thanks for all the advice and mabe ill talk to you real soon..........Jimmy ;)
usmc68
Member
Posts: 133
Joined: February 23rd, 2010, 2:26 pm
Enter the middle number please (3): 3

Re: What Kit to get? so many on the market.

Post by usmc68 »

I started in 89, using GT's 2020 manual system, then GW which I didn't like-let the piston slip on vacuum and buy a windshield, then LR and the blue plastic-I still use the injector only for crack repair, and then DK a few years ago-home sweet home.
All others push vacuum then pressure, while DK is the opposite, doesn't matter a bit, get the resin in and the air out, not much time saved either way. Inches of mercury on vacuum is really not important-way over rated, just move the air!
Check DK, GW, LR, and GT web sites-where is the company support? Delta leads hands down!
Speed does not mean good. You were ripped off. Most 15 minute repairs suck, in my opinion.
t4k
Senior Member
Posts: 1058
Joined: April 12th, 2008, 8:47 pm
Enter the middle number please (3): 5
Location: U.S.

Re: What Kit to get? so many on the market.

Post by t4k »

Delta Kits.
paulrsf
Member
Posts: 163
Joined: October 17th, 2009, 8:52 pm
Enter the middle number please (3): 3
Location: Oakland, CA
Contact:

Re: What Kit to get? so many on the market.

Post by paulrsf »

I don't have any business dealing with Delta Kits other than as a user of Delta Kits equipment and supplies. I use only Delta Kits products because aside from superior quality, I know that I can always count on them for the best customer service in the business. I've tried several other injectors and bridges on the market but all in all Delta Kits' products exceed the others in performance, and cost. ....Just my opinion.
Paul R.
User avatar
Brent Deines
Moderator
Posts: 2452
Joined: September 24th, 2003, 7:54 am
Enter the middle number please (3): 5
Location: Eugene, OR
Contact:

Re: What Kit to get? so many on the market.

Post by Brent Deines »

Jimmy Prince wrote:"I didn't realize you had already attended the GW online training"

I didnt do anything online yet. I said it was a good idea to have online training. You misunderstood me sorry. I didnt like there web site. The kits didnt give details like yours. But in the GW video they kinda said your system is old while theres is state of the art. I didnt like that also. But i do like th fact that you seem to be a honest guy. and your willing to give me my money back if i dont like it. Kinda like a i cant lose thing. I put a ad on craigslist for windshield repair Just to test the waters here. if i get just one bite i will be getting set up real soon. Thanks for all the advice and mabe ill talk to you real soon..........Jimmy ;)

My mistake. You said, "They have great online training" so I assumed you had first hand knowledge." What's the old saying? When you assume you make an *** out of U and me...or something along those lines. I should know better than to assume anything. Sorry about that.
Brent Deines
Delta Kits, Inc.
Image
puka pau
Member
Posts: 157
Joined: November 1st, 2010, 4:05 pm
Enter the middle number please (3): 3

Re: What Kit to get? so many on the market.

Post by puka pau »

In my opinion and in order of importance; training, resin(s), tools.

1 Training: If you don't learn the rudiments of any craft, trade or profession, you'll work harder, not smarter with generally mediocre results.

2. Resin(s): Not as much of a problem sourcing reliable resins today as a few decades ago. Still, a top quality resin can and will bail you out of sticky situations more easily than a substandard formula. But even the best resins can (and often do) have idiosyncrasies.

3. Tools: Just about any bridge/injector combination can get the job done. My thirty year old equipment of admittedly anachronistic design is simple, inexpensive and easy to operate and replace when it breaks or wears out. Most people who post frequently on this forum would probably laugh themselves silly if they saw what tools I use. But they've served me well for decades repairing damage of the sort that a lot of the competition turned away - and I still have most of the accounts I acquired twenty some years ago.

Do what you must to get quality training and use quality resins. What bridge/injector to buy is a relatively minor consideration.

Cheers

Puka Pau
BGW
Junior Member
Posts: 11
Joined: May 9th, 2011, 7:58 pm
Enter the middle number please (3): 3

Re: What Kit to get? so many on the market.

Post by BGW »

Thanks goes out to Korey @ Delta Kits. I just ordered the EZK-101 yesterday and expect to recieve it this Friday. I'm anxious to get to training on that set. I'm thinking I'll do at least 50 practice repairs or so before I attempt a paying customer. I fugure this is where family comes into play who will let you practice on their chips. Then if it runs on me (ugh) I can give 'em a good rate on a replacement w/s.
Image
John Bemis
Bemis Glass Werx
Garden City, Kansas
Post Reply

Who is online

Users browsing this forum: No registered users and 11 guests