Windshield Repair Forum

Amen. Screenman

Thanks Bruno and Screenman!! I appreciate the professional reply. Just wanted some realworld feedback from an actual user.OK now can any body be specific as how they do the system ?Is it special paint/toners ??Additives??Technique??I am contacting the co.tomorrow but would like to here from only Techs that have used this system or have seen it used.This information is what I value ,you guys that actually use it.OK GlassStarz I already know your position and you really love it .At this point have learned to value your opinion.How about someone else??Do you know of anyone along the S/E US gulf coast using it.I would love to see it in action.Would be willing to travel some to see it.Also a good excuse for a road trip...............

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screenman;22421 wrote:Ben,
have you tried speaking to the people who make the system?

Every week I get people asking me why my system and training is a lot more expensive than all other systems and my answer is the quality of both is far greater.

If they cannot give you any answers go with your gut feeling. I tend to also be soo enthusiastic about some of my suppliers people are convinced I am getting commision when this is ofetn not the case.

Whatever you decide do it quick and get out there earning, each week we put off a decision in business can cost us a lot of money.

Do not forget the only thing we cannot get more of in life is time.

Yes Screenman I called them and when I told them I was looking for information for an add on system(why I need this I will never know I too busy now as it is)The 1st thing said was well this will be your main system and everything else you do add on .hmmm ..........wonder what my accounts would say so any way I want to look into the" next big thing "So I think "hey those great guys on the forum might help" give me a tip and set me straight and well you know the rest...............................

Good thread, hope I can help.

I can understand what you are saying as $6000 is a lot of money for a touch up kit. I do scuffs and scratches with a Dupont waterbased kit, I mix my paints up from the toners and then spray my repair. So why would I go out and by another paint kit when I already have access to every colour there is?

TIME IS MONEY, Time spent mixing paints is time that could be spent doing other things. I can achieve excellent results mixing my paint, adding a couple of ingredients and applying the paint to a peppered hood with a squeegee or my index finger in circular motion, then removing with a overspray remover. on dark colours it works a treat. BUT, If you have 5 cars with just chips and scratches to be repaired, do you really want to mix up 5 lots of paint? I dont! So I looked at most of the touch up systems out there including SSR which I nearly purchased until I heard bad reviews from people in the UK saying that the paint did not stay in the scratches and so I then decided on IMMAC. An easy to use kit which is very fast and takes up very little space, can fit the entire kit in the back of a small car! Great colour selection in the 220 colour tint set and only costs about $2000 - $3000 Much less that PP. I HAVE NOT SEEN PREMIER PAINT IN ACTION SO NOT FAIR FOR ME TO COMMENT ON ITS SYSTEM.

Just my opinion but the money you are paying with any system is for the idea, training, support and back up. If it can save you an hour each day then it will pay for its self very quickly.#

I chose IMMAC but whoever you choose make sure you do your research on all the forums first and see the system in action for YOURSELF, make up YOUR OWN mind.

Good luck with what ever you decide I am sure you will make the right choice.

Thank you for a very intellegent and refreshing reply.Ill check out the system you mentioned.I just got a chance to see several cars done with the PP2000 system and although they look real good when 1st done the U/c mgr said they have a big loss of gloss and seem to streak after 2/3 weeks.Said he hopes they sell quick. Also said would entertain a system with less flash and longer staying power.Says they can tell a big difference after a couple of lot washs.Seems to be a silicone type finish the tech applies after a touch up is the only real difference in their system.Looks like also they have a good metallic flop additive to keep the metallics from clumping ect..I wont comment on the value of their system as that seemed to open up a can of worms here but seems this system is marketed to to people from a non tech/ based type background and are willing to pay for the basic training and business set up. They quality of the paint chips touch up was very good though just nothing earthshaking.

The demo I saw with the Chip Doctors/ Repare-brise people was very convincing(they use a modified PP2000 system). The demo I saw used no silicone sealer, just a wax after the paint application(a spray wax that can be used in the sun, on black plastic without concern, very cool). From speaking with other franchise's the touch-ups last, and don't lose any of there gloss. Plus there customer feedback is great.

Fix A Chip,

I agree the Imac kit is a very good system and now with the intorduction of water base it is the only way to do touch ups. However it is a bit limited for spary jobs although we did manage a few. I must say there was never a slow down in demand for touch ups I just found it to time consuming, compared with screen repair and PDR. Would you please let me know where you got your system from I sold all 3 of ours and would not mind putting one back on the shelf.

As an after thought do not try and mix with normal thinners it sets like jelly.

Sorry, I mean IMAC NOT IMMAC!


Screenman, I got my kit of ebay from the UK, had never been used! Larry from Imac advised me that it was ok to add a little 2k thinners if the paints were a little thick. I have added a little thinners to a few and they seem fine, but I would be interested if you have had problems doing this as I won't add any more if its going to make me some jelly!

The thing is with any touch up system is that it is just that, a touch up. The thing I like about Imac is there is no buffing needed, no risk of burning through clearcoat or leaving swirls, also the buffing can be hard on my poor back. ( ruptured a disc a few months ago, still gives me probs)

Imac have this pink stuff that you just pour a bit on a cloth and after a minute or two you just wipe of the excess and it leaves the paint in the chips. I was not aware it could be sprayed but as I use my Dupont for spraying id stick with that any way. My Imac only comes out if I am repairing a dent and it needs a little touch up or there is a car with lots of stone chips.

If I am doing paint repairs on a car then I will use the excact match I have already mixed. But the Imac saves lots of time for a quick touch up without mixing and matching, Just pick out the closet match from the coloured lids.

It is without doubt a great time saver and works a treat on all colour including silvers. I would recommend it as a perfect add on the PDR or Windshield repair.

I am in the U.S at the moment as I am at the mobile tech expo, PP2000 Are here along with a few others, I will be checking them out tomorrow so I can let you know what I think if its of any interest.

I am now trying to shy away from spray repairs as it is a pain and more money can be earnt doing PDR and Screens. Oh and touch up.

Bruno;22595 wrote:The demo I saw with the Chip Doctors/ Repare-brise people was very convincing(they use a modified PP2000 system). The demo I saw used no silicone sealer, just a wax after the paint application(a spray wax that can be used in the sun, on black plastic without concern, very cool). From speaking with other franchise's the touch-ups last, and don't lose any of there gloss. Plus there customer feedback is great.

I just recontacted the U/C mgr in N/FLA and he said he thought it was PP2000 but not 100% sure .Said will call his tech and ask.Until then the search continues.........Dont want to give a potentially good system a bad rap.

fix a chip;22608 wrote:Sorry, I mean IMAC NOT IMMAC!


Screenman, I got my kit of ebay from the UK, had never been used! Larry from Imac advised me that it was ok to add a little 2k thinners if the paints were a little thick. I have added a little thinners to a few and they seem fine, but I would be interested if you have had problems doing this as I won't add any more if its going to make me some jelly!

The thing is with any touch up system is that it is just that, a touch up. The thing I like about Imac is there is no buffing needed, no risk of burning through clearcoat or leaving swirls, also the buffing can be hard on my poor back. ( ruptured a disc a few months ago, still gives me probs)

Imac have this pink stuff that you just pour a bit on a cloth and after a minute or two you just wipe of the excess and it leaves the paint in the chips. I was not aware it could be sprayed but as I use my Dupont for spraying id stick with that any way. My Imac only comes out if I am repairing a dent and it needs a little touch up or there is a car with lots of stone chips.

If I am doing paint repairs on a car then I will use the excact match I have already mixed. But the Imac saves lots of time for a quick touch up without mixing and matching, Just pick out the closet match from the coloured lids.

It is without doubt a great time saver and works a treat on all colour including silvers. I would recommend it as a perfect add on the PDR or Windshield repair.

I am in the U.S at the moment as I am at the mobile tech expo, PP2000 Are here along with a few others, I will be checking them out tomorrow so I can let you know what I think if its of any interest.

I am now trying to shy away from spray repairs as it is a pain and more money can be earnt doing PDR and Screens. Oh and touch up.

Fix a Chip
Have you ever looked at the touchup123 system.Sounds similar to the IMAC system.What did you think of the PP2000 system at the show and price V value?Thanks for the info on IMAC .Calling then tomorrow AM