Double Edge Sword Part 2

[phils windshield repair]

like i stated earlier have over twenty years in repair businees.people see me do them and see how easy it is and want to try it lets face it u could train a monkey to do stone chips i think we can all agree not hard to learn.but when u tell them u have to set up contractswith insurance companies get liability insurance and grind the pavement every day they loose interest real quick not mant people r willing to do that but when u hand them everything on a silver platter where to setup how to get contracts with insurance companies where they dont have to do any research or leg work they jump right in.then read posts like mr chips market so flooded down here they do them for 10 dollars hmmmmmmmm i wonder why?like i stated earlier have no problem telling anyone how to repair a chip or advice i jus wont reveal my maketing strategies i think that is insane.thats why maket is flooded now most people wont do if they have to go out and do this on their own if they have to do own research and marketing they sure will tho when u hand it to them on a silver platter tho.would love to hear feedback on this from other techs ty

[phils windshield repair]

heres an example u can relate to jus remember this is an example and not fact dont want no lawsuits lol delta will help u with any aspect of fixing a chip but do u see them telling u who does there tooling for them so u can buy straight from the company that does there tooling or the resin company that makes there resin so u can buy directly from the resin company heck no why cause they spent lots of time researching and money to have there resins prepared they would be foolish to do so thats business.SO WHY would u guys that spent yrs and money on your own marketing strategies give it away so freely????then wonder why market is flooded and people r doing chips for 10 dollars well they didnt have to waste any money on perfecting there marketing or research not to mention the time it was handed to them on a silver platter.MOST WOULD NEVER GET INTO THIS BUSINESS IF THEY HAD TO DO ALL THIS THEMSELVES. this is jus my opinion look at replacement business only skilled trade i know of where people on average make 12 to 16 dollars an hour can almost make same money working for mcdonalds.please give me your opinions on this i see repair business following same route as replacement jus another cutthroat business

[toab]

Jeepers man your really gettin' wound up about this secrets stuff aren't you ? Up here I'm gonna have the job of educating people that the service exists.

[Coitster]

I agree with Phil. It is reletivly simple to train people (if they have patience) in wsr. Marketing is the real secret, its much harder to train people in the sales and marketing aspect. Of course I think a blind dog with a note in its mouth could sell wsr there is more to it then sales though. Personaly I am starting to get away from my traditional cold calling techniques. I still use them in a pinch but its a matter of marketing. Many people will get in the business but its like a revolving door. They get back out just as fast after a few months. This is fine with me especialy because insurance companies are phasing out paying for chip repair. If you ask me I can't wait until they all quit covering it. Tomorrow would be fine with me, I can't wait because those people who truely know how to market will find a monster need in the industry with very few techs available. Personaly I am shaking in my shoes with excitement for the big flush to happen.
David
Coitster

[phils windshield repair]

well coister i disagree aboout insurance claims love them but see u do pdr so im guessing u really dont care if your windshield repairs falter cause u hav a lucrative market in pdr to fall back on mite get into pdr myself from what u guys say at least every trained monkey cant learn that in days

[phils windshield repair]

lmao im not wound up im jus saying all the guys with shops and all the overhead gonna compete with the tent guys that can afford to do for 10 dollars cause only overhead is a tent hmmmmmmm now im wondering why all the repair guys have to offer all these other services jus to stay in businessthats my whole point u shouldnt have to

[phils windshield repair]

well coister i see your smart u know future of windshield repair is looking bleak in the future im pretty sure thats why u started getting involved in pdr like i stated earlier have no problem giving advice on how to repair chips its jus the other info if they want to start a business let them do the leg work and research jus like we all had to its not hard to contact insurance companiesand get on the networks its jus time consuming my point is let them do this part thereselvesmost people r to lazy to do this part of business

[Coitster]

Sorry Phil,
Got to disagree with you now. First off I don't do PDR anymore. Havn't done a PDR job in a year, plus I got ride of all my tools. PDR is a very hard business that is much more saturated then the WSR business and takes years to learn. I won't ever do a PDR job ever again. As for windshield repair I still to this day think it is a fantastic business. I just happen to think that most people can't do it. I can't tell you how many times I see horrible jobs done, thats why I prefficed the word patience before. To many guys are in a big darn hurry to do a chip repair. As for insurance I can't wait until all insurance companies get out of the repair business.

For the way I am starting to do business now I couldn't be happier, I do agree with you on people being lazy when it comes to researching the marketing side of the business. Those people that are selling the Free windshield repair won't know how to make the tranistion to selling work that cost's people money out of their pocket. I still think their is going to be a gigantic flush in the business, if I am wrong and their isn't thats ok too. The smart marketers will win in the end (Like Me).
David
Coitster

[phils windshield repair]

wow from reading earlier posts i thought u was really doing good with pdr.Sorry to hear it didnt pan out for u best of luck i hope people dont think im against starting a business im not thats the american dream im jus saying dont give it to them on silver platter and yes your right see horrible repairs done all the time and no im not scared of competition i have been doing trhe same accounts for twenty yrs i also do replacementsafelite has tried for yrs to get my accounts i do all the car haulers around here pepsi and numerous other accounts can safelite beat my prices of course they can but they can never beat my service have no worries here ty phil

[GFD77]

Coitser,

I'm gonna disagree with you on all insurance companies dropping repair, ultimately repairs save insurance companies money, and like every other business making money is the bottom line....I do agree with you that patience is the most important part of this work, if we can teach the newcomers to be patient, the industry will not suffer and we can help the industry because the feedback to the insurance companies from their customers will not be negative, and in turn this will promote repair as opposed to replacement.

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