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Hey guys I was wondering if any of you have problems with yours hands getting sores on them.I seemed to be getting sores under my nails.My hands are cracking a little also.Normally I dont wear gloves but I have started here in the last week.Which gloves do most of you wear?I appreciate your input.
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I wear powderless NITRILE gloves for the same reasons you speak of. I have been down that road before and had to have cortozone shots to clear it up. I had spread the resin all of my door handles and steering whel of my vehicle. I traded it after I started using gloves for every repair. I also have some protective hand barrier lotion that I use occasionally. You can buy these gloves on ebay for about $75 per thousand. Some of us are more sensitive to resin than others.
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yes i happened to me last winter, hand continuously kept on cracking. got to be pretty painful anything would hurt. started to wear nitril gloved and have had no problems. i buy them at costco 2 boxes of 150 for about 15.00
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Hi Bill, your profile is telling me that you joined the forum at sept. 18 2007. You may have been longer doing windshield repair, this I don't know. What I do know is that anybody should wear protective gloves, not the cheap Latex gloves but Nitrile gloves. Delta Kits sells them. Like GWT is saying; ''some of us are more sensitive than others'' and that's a fact. But any windshield repairer will reach a point somewhere in time where he or she will be hit by this problem since your system (body) can only coop with a certain level of exposure to chemicals -if you deal with resins on a regular basis and do not protect yourself. It is called Dermatitus and it is nasty. I know of people who had to give up doing windshield repair and others who suffer a lot. Once you are hit by it, there is not all that much you can do, it needs time, sometimes a lot of time. There are some cremes but that is messy and there is no real guaranty that it will work. Again; use proper gloves, better be safe than sorry. The cost of the gloves is just pathetic -when related to the nasty problem!
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Some people develop a allergy to the resins going with a non acid resin will help or using gloves I use a protectant lotions (barrier creme) Ithere are sveral out there that work good I buy mine at michales art supply stores (Bob Ross brand)
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I agree with with using Nitrile gloves and/or barrier creams. Derma-Shield is one of the best I have ever used but we no longer sell it due to the special packaging requirements. We just did not sell enough of it to warrant the cost of the packaging when the proper use of Nitrile gloves seems to work very well. I like powdered gloves as they are easier to get on and off, but some people are actually allergic to the powder, so sometimes that is the better choice.

The type of resin you use is also very important. Nearly all of the technicians who have expressed this complaint to us are either using a competitor resin, or used to use a competitor resin, with a very high acrylic acid content, before switching to a Delta Kits resin product. I'm not saying you have to use Delta Kits resin or suffer from skin problems, but there are some very harsh products on the market that are far more likely to cause problems than others. Although we have had few problems with our Premium Bond resin over the past 25 years, MagniBond is a safer choice and actually a better performing resin that we introduced a number of years ago.

As mentioned above, it's rare for a properly trained technician who has only used Delta Kits resins to develop a skin condition, but for those with extremely sensitive skin, Delta Kits and several other suppliers also offer acid free resins. Generally speaking the only Delta Kits customers who find they have to switch to acid free resins are those that have developed an extreme sensitivity to all acid based products due to the use of other brands with very high acrylic acid content.

So why doesn't everyone use acid free resins? Simply put, they do not offer the bonding strength that acid based products provide, and there are low acid resins available that offer superior performance and have an impeccable safety record. MagniBond is such a resin.

Another very important tip is that if you use Nitrile gloves, be sure that if you tear a hole in them, you remove them immediately, wash your hands with soap and hot water, then put on a new pair of gloves before proceeding. If resin gets inside the glove and is trapped against the skin it can be worse than not wearing gloves at all. The use of a barrier cream in addition to the use of Nitrile gloves adds an extra level of protection, and is recommended, especially for anyone who already has sensitive skin.

You should always do everything possible to avoid skin contact with any chemical. If you use alcohol or acetone to clean your equipment you need to protect your skin from those chemicals.

This is not an advertisement for Delta Kits products, but a heads up to any of you who have developed a skin condition that you believe is related to the use of a windshield repair resin. There are some very good products on the market that should not cause these problems, and whether you choose Delta Kits or another brand, I would encourage you to seek a product that is as safe as possible to work with. I did not use any skin protection for over 10 years and never developed a skin condition, but I do use skin protection now just to make sure that I never do have problems, and I would encourage all of you to do so as well regardless of how long you have been in this business with no problems. Better safe than sorry.
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I could not imagine doing a repair without putting gloves on, not all the places I work have hand washing facilities so I carry wet wipes as well. I prefer non powdered as I find the powder can make a mess of the dark blue uniform I wear.
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Brent I have been properly trained just as well as a Delta tech.You know that I am not a delta user.Also,I have been repairing for 4 years and have never had a problem using LR Resin.Thanks for your input though!
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I'm not challenging your training or the products you use Bill, but you are the one with sores on your hands so I thought I would share my experience with such things. I tend to answer the questions without considering who posted it or the products that they use. Frankly it's sometimes hard for me to remember who and who is not a Delta Kits customer on the windshield repair forum, but my response in this case would have been the same regardless of who posted the question or what products they use.

What I meant by properly trained is that I don't get a lot of resin on my hands or gloves, but I sometimes see technicians using our products improperly and they end up getting resin all over themselves. This can happen with any system, but the more small internal parts you have to fiddle around with before, during, or after the repair process, the harder it is to keep from getting resin on yourself.

Sometimes it takes a few years to build up a sensitivity to a chemical, which is why it is so important to use proper protection all the time even if you don't seem to have a sensitivity to a particular chemical.
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bill lambeth wrote:Brent I have been properly trained just as well as a Delta tech.You know that I am not a delta user.Also,I have been repairing for 4 years and have never had a problem using LR Resin.Thanks for your input though!
Bill- I have used LR's equipment and their resin and have not had a problem so far. They (LR) do offer an acid free resin as most companies do. You want to try that for a while, too.
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