Another Newbee Question

[Chips]

Hi all, I have been lurking here for awhile and have tried to wade thru the volumes of information available in this forum, it is a daunting task.

I am trying to make a final decision about which kit to start out with. I want to buy the best kit the first time. I can't afford to buy everyones kit and choose the best myself.

I want to be able to produce as invisable as possible results given the limitations of the technology. I am very detail oriented and have a history in art and crafts so I think I will be able to perform the repairs with a high degree of craftmanship.

I want to be able to do long cracks well. I see this as a good sales tool. even if I don't make a lot on that one repair I think that it will come back to me in referals, having saved the customers windshield.

Having said all that I will ask my question. There are kits which have vaccum pumps and some that don't and bridges come in all sorts of configurations. Overall do you think that a vaccum/pressure pump is important to a good repair? Which is the best bridge for getting a good seal/working near the edge of the glass/and sealing long cracks?

A last couple of questions, what about plate glass repair. Is it a viable business segment to persue? I have heard that it is hard to fix glass that is vertical like plate glass and semi tractor windshields. Anyone have experience with this?

I hope these questions aren't covered in past posts I have been reading and searching for awhile and my eyes are bleeding. I am going to continue to explore the archives, as there is a lot of good information there.

Thanks,

Dave

[CPR]

I can answer 2 of your questions, have tried 3 leading brands of injectors. The one I reach for first is my delta with vac pump. I dont do cracks and a vac pump wont work for that anyway, the other one I had without a vac pump spent more time popping off the glass than sticking to it. As far as tractor trailers go, the hardest thing to do is line up the tool in the right place. I,m 6-5 and need every bit of it to reach the area in the middle of the glass, other than that it is just like doing a car or suv.

[Delta Kits]

I dont do cracks and a vac pump wont work for that anyway

Uh...What do you want to bet?

[Chips]

Hi CPR,

You mentioned that "The one I reach for first is my delta with vac pump"

Is the little spring plunger considered a pump or do you have an older model I looked again on the site and didn't see any pump available in a kit or as an option?

Hi Jeff,

Could you go into more detail on your observation about vaccum being useful for crack repair. Given that the plunger only has the vaccum created by the single movement within the injector cylinder doesn't it run out of vaccum quickly?

Thanks,

Dave

[Delta Kits]

Is the little spring plunger considered a pump or do you have an older model I looked again on the site and didn't see any pump available in a kit or as an option?

When people are talking about the vacuum pump in regards to our equipment, they are speaking of the vacuum cup on the B300.

Could you go into more detail on your observation about vaccum being useful for crack repair. Given that the plunger only has the vaccum created by the single movement within the injector cylinder doesn't it run out of vaccum quickly?

Sure...

What CPR means (correctly I might add), is that you cannot slide the vacuum cup along a crack like some manufacturers recommend. That is completely true, you cannot slide our B300 or B200 bridges.

We feel that by sliding a bridge along a crack, you are flexing that crack, allowing air to enter a previously filled, but not yet cured, repair.

With our method, in short, you put the bridge in the pressure cycle at one end, allow it to fill as far as it will, then when it will not push the resin farther, you start adding resin with a dropper, which will continue to push it farther.

In every kit we sell, it has a training video that goes over the process in detail, but that's the short version!

[CPR]

Sorry, was saying I cant do cracks without sliding a bridge ( yet ).

[Repair1]

Ok just my two cents worth here,

Having used a zillion different types of repair kits over the years I use two different types one being Delta you will find that it

[mafsu]

I agree with Repair1, of the bridges I have tried Delta's is very good. The injector can pull as strong a vaccum as you should ever need. It can also supply more pressure than you should need on most repairs. An experienced tech will probably get similar results with most decent tools. Delta has the added advantage of great customer service and support. I would keep this support in mind, it's invaluable. Wish I'd had it when I was starting out. It will greatly reduce your learning curve.

[Coitster]

I have to disagree with Jeff on this one. (Sorry Jeff) you can slide the newer Delta bridges with the right kind of lubricants. I personaly use the older style of delta bridge. It has the same injector system as the new ones the only difference is the pedistal. Also their are lots of ways to do crack repair. I personaly do use the slide technique and a few others. As for what kit you should use I really think it should be delta kits. I have used about every major system on the market save just a couple and I think delta is by far the best. Just my opionion.
David
Coitster

[Delta Kits]

I have to disagree with Jeff on this one.

Okay okay....

You CAN slide the bridge, but we, along with the manufacturer of the cup, do not RECOMMEND doing it.

Plus, if you master our technique, you won't WANT to slide the bridge!

Okay Coit?